Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth

MAPS 15 BOGO: https://maps15bogo.com Buy any MAPS 15 program get a second one free. Choose from MAPS 15 Minutes, Symmetry, Strong, Powerlift, Performance, Muscle Mommy and Forty Plus. Lifetime access, no subscription, 30-day money back guarantee. You track your weight every morning, log every macro, and get your body fat tested whenever you can. So why do you still feel like you're spinning your wheels? In this episode of Mind Pump Show, Sal, Adam, and Justin make the case that for a lot of people, obsessive tracking isn't helping. It's actively wrecking your relationship with food, your body, and the whole damn process. The guys break down exactly why the scale, body fat percentage, macro tracking, and circumference measurements can all send you spiraling, and what the actual research says you SHOULD be measuring instead. Then the hosts shift to live coaching, taking calls from three real listeners: a 65-year-old lifelong athlete trying not to regress, a nearly-50-year-old guy wondering how to keep progressing without blowing up his joints, and a 36-year-old chemistry teacher who got a serious lower back wake-up call mid-deadlift. Real situations, real advice, zero fluff. Plus the guys go deep on NAD supplements, why liposomal delivery is the only oral form worth your money, Eight Sleep's autopilot study on temperature and deep sleep, and yes, Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster somehow makes an appearance too. If you've ever let a number on a scale ruin a day where everything else was going right, this episode is for you. Hit play and find out what you should actually be tracking, and what you should probably just stop. SPONSORS Rho Nutrition (liposomal NAD+): https://www.rhonutrition.com/discount/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off everything. Eight Sleep (Pod 5 Ultra): https://eightsleep.com/mindpump Use link for up to $350 off. HSA/FSA may qualify through Truemed — qualified customers save about 30% on average. Truemed is for qualified customers. HSA/FSA tax savings vary. Super Patch: https://mindpump.superpatch.com No code needed, use URL for $30 off. Freedom (pain), Liberty (mobility), REM (sleep), Victory (athletic performance) and Focus (concentration). LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 00:00 - Intro 02:22 - T-shirt winners and store plug 03:53 - Why performance beats appearance as a health marker 6:23 - The problem with common tracking metrics 10:25 - Why the scale ruins progress for so many people 15:08 - Macro tracking: useful tool or obsessive trap 16:29 - Adam's personal goal and tracking mindset 30:45 - Sal's DEXA scan results and what they actually mean 38:19 - Eight Sleep autopilot study and sleep temperature science 49:36 - NAD supplements: what works and what doesn't 1:08:34 - Caller: Joseph (Michigan) — 65-year-old athlete avoiding regression, gets MAPS Anabolic two days a week plus mobility 1:22:24 - Caller: Mike (Pennsylvania) — approaching 50, good strength numbers, wants definition, gets diet coaching 1:33:25 - Caller: Jessica (Virginia) — chemistry teacher, 270-pound deadlift, lower back injury, gets MAPS Performance and lateral stability protocol 1:54:51 - Caller: Sarah (South Dakota) — one year postpartum, chronic hip pain since first pregnancy, gets single leg deadlift protocol and MRI recommendation Products: MAPS 15 BOGO Funnel — https://maps15bogo.com/ MAPS 15 Minutes — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-15-minutes MAPS Symmetry — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-symmetry MAPS Strong — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/mfp-maps-strong MAPS 15 Powerlift — https://15powerlift.com/ MAPS Performance — https://mapsperformance.com MAPS Muscle Mommy — https://mindpumpproducts.com/muscle-mommy MAPS 40+ — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-40 MAPS Anabolic — https://mapsanabolic.com MAPS Old Time Strength — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-oldtime-strength MAPS Prime Pro — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-prime-pro

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down the exact strategy to get from lean to sub-10% body fat as fast as possible. They cover why the deficit has to be dogmatic and consistent once you get below 10%, how to use carb cycling to preserve your sanity and your pumps, why steps are the most underrated fat loss tool and why adding more intense workouts is counterproductive at this stage, how to make peace with hunger that gets louder the leaner you get, why boring meals actually help you eat less, which supplements make a real difference for muscle preservation (EAAs, creatine and whey), why you should cut your training volume in half and play defense with lifting, why sleep becomes exponentially more important the leaner you get, and why cardio should be saved as a last resort for the final week or two — not used throughout. Justin is out sick so this is Sal and Adam only. SPONSORS Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:19 - Getting from lean to shredded — why below 10% is a completely different challenge 5:20 - Step 1: The deficit must be consistent and dogmatic — no cheating your way through this 8:19 - Step 2: Carb cycling for the mental part — why it works and how to structure it 15:41 - Step 3: Steps steps and more steps — why walking beats adding more workouts 20:04 - Step 4: Get friendly with hunger — it is going to be there and you have to make peace with it 24:20 - Step 5: Tricks for cravings — gum, seltzer, LMNT, boring meals and avoiding hyper palatable foods 29:42 - Step 6: Supplements for muscle maintenance — EAAs, creatine and whey 32:21 - Step 7: Play defense with lifting — cut volume in half and stop chasing gains 37:21 - Step 8: Sleep is non-negotiable — one bad night wrecks your cravings and recovery 39:36 - Step 9: When and how to use cardio — save it as the last resort for the final week or two

MAPS 15 BOGO: https://maps15bogo.com Buy any MAPS 15 program get a second one free. Choose from MAPS 15 Minutes, Symmetry, Strong, Powerlift, Performance, Muscle Mommy and Forty Plus. Lifetime access, no subscription, 30-day money back guarantee. In this episode the guys break down exactly how to get strong as fast as possible — why strength is one of the best investments you can make in your health and longevity, why lifting heavy is non-negotiable, why stopping short of failure is the key to sustainable progress, why fewer exercises done with more sets beats the other way around, why eating a lot is mandatory not optional, and why nine hours of sleep is the most underrated strength tool available. They also cover Butcher Box's grass-fed tri tip and why it has become a staple in the guys' meal prep, Adam's ongoing reverse diet update and the results he is seeing, new data on testosterone and its underappreciated role in women's health, Legion's egg protein and how it stacks up, and the guy who lives in the bookmark section of Instagram — the person everyone saves but never actually follows. SPONSORS Legion (egg protein): https://buylegion.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP — new customers buy one get one 50% off, returning customers get 20% cash back. Butcher Box: https://butcherbox.com/mindpump No code needed. Choose NY strips or filet mignons for a year, or chicken breasts for life. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 2:33 Why Strength (Not Just Muscle) Drives Longevity 11:07 Never Train to Failure for Strength 14:20 The Strength-Building Programming Blueprint 16:11 Focus on Big Compound Lifts 17:58 Eating for Strength: Calorie Surplus and Protein First 20:25 Sleep and the Central Nervous System 22:35 Grass-Fed Tri Tip: A Low-Effort Calorie Hack 30:01 Adam's Reverse Diet and Tracking Confessions 49:38 Testosterone and Money: What They Really Do to You 1:00:02 Caller Nadia: From Eating Disorder to Female Strength Community 1:02:27 Caller Valerie: When to Stop Chasing PRs 1:41:49 Caller Caitlin: Undereating, No Cycle, and the Road Back Products: MAPS 15 BOGO Funnel — https://maps15bogo.com/ MAPS Upper Lower — https://mapsupperlower.com MAPS Powerlift — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-powerlift MAPS Muscle Mommy — https://mindpumpproducts.com/muscle-mommy MAPS Symmetry — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-symmetry MAPS Performance — https://mapsperformance.com MAPS Anabolic Advanced — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-anabolic-advanced MAPS 15 Strong — https://maps15strong.com/ MAPS 40+ — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-40 MAPS 15 Symmetry — https://15symmetry.com/ MAPS 15 Powerlift — https://15powerlift.com/ MAPS 15 Minutes — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-15-minutes MAPS 15 Performance — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/maps-15-performance MAPS Strong — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/mfp-maps-strong Concierge Coaching — https://mindpumpconcierge.com/ Elite Trainer Academy: Standard — https://www.skool.com/ MAPS RGB Bundle — https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/mfp-rgb-bundle

MAPS 15 BOGO: https://maps15bogo.com Buy any MAPS 15 program get a second one free. Choose from MAPS 15 Minutes, Symmetry, Strong, Powerlift, Performance, Muscle Mommy and Forty Plus. Lifetime access, no subscription, 30-day money back guarantee. In this episode the guys break down the classic fitness this-or-that debates — cardio before or after lifting for fat loss, fasted vs non-fasted training, small vs big meals, low rep vs high rep, fast reps vs slow reps, and full body vs split programs. They also get into Paleovalley's new pumpkin bone broth, Crocs and the ongoing footwear debate, what happens to female competitors' hair during prep, new data on PDE5 inhibitors and cardiovascular longevity, how positive vs negative thought patterns physically change neural pathways, Sal using Ketone IQ during his cut to extend his energy window, and the Porsche Experience driving event. Then they answer questions from Instagram on keeping the same routine for a year, whether a calorie surplus is needed above 20% body fat, transitioning from box squats to back squats with knee pain, and myo-reps and how to use them correctly. SPONSORS Paleo Valley (pumpkin bone broth): https://paleovalley.com/mindpump 15% off automatically applied at checkout. Ketone IQ: https://ketone.com/MINDPUMP 30% off subscription orders plus a free gift with your second shipment. Also available at CVS — $5 off your first 6-pack for a limited time. Fatty15 (C15 essential fatty acid): https://fatty15.com/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for additional 15% off 90-day Starter Kit. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 intro 2:39 Cardio before or after lifting 5:58 Meal frequency debate 12:20 Low reps vs. high reps 13:32 Slow reps vs. fast reps 16:29 Full body vs. split training 30:41 Cialis longevity and health data 34:58 Neuroscience of negative vs. positive thoughts 57:49 Q&A: Can a beginner run the same program for a year 59:19 Q&A: Do you need a surplus above 20% body fat 1:01:49 Q&A: Box squats to back squats, ankle mobility fix 1:03:27 Q&A: Myoreps and intensity techniques

MAPS 15 BOGO: https://maps15bogo.com Buy any MAPS 15 program and get a second one free. Choose from MAPS 15 Minutes, Symmetry, Strong, Powerlift, Performance, Muscle Mommy and Forty Plus. Lifetime access, no subscription, 30-day money back guarantee. In this episode the guys sit down with Michael Smoak — public speaker, podcaster and host of the fastest growing podcast in wellness, The Higher Up Podcast — for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation. Michael shares the full origin story: being called overweight by his best friend at 20, losing 60 pounds in ten months listening to Mind Pump, spending seven years building a knowledge base in isolation before posting his first TikTok at 26, quitting his corporate sales job after one month when the promise he made himself came true, and building to three million followers across platforms. He also opens up about the five months caring for his father as he died from a portal vein blood clot with no treatment available, recording his father's voice on a lapel mic 60 days before he passed, delivering the eulogy at 27, how his dad's death became the catalyst for his faith, how the lonely chapter is a necessary part of any man's growth, and the Purpose Progression tour he is currently running. The guys also discuss the rise of young men turning to faith at unprecedented rates, how to evolve your friend group without a formal breakup, and what purpose actually looks like in practice. GUEST LINKS Michael Smoak: https://www.instagram.com/higherupwellness The Higher Up Podcast: available on all major platforms The Purpose Progression Tour: https://laylo.com/laylo-higheruptour/m/wpPOi3 LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 1:11 - Michael's origin — called overweight at 20, losing 60 pounds in ten months listening to Mind Pump 6:25 - Seven years building in isolation — from corporate sales to 3 million followers in three years 11:00 - The binge-restrict cycle, disordered eating and how he finally got out of it 15:55 - Floor goals vs ceiling goals — why minimum viable habits beat extreme protocols 20:32 - His first viral video and the fear of being perceived that almost stopped everything 26:42 - The elbow problem video and why hyperbolic content works on social media 29:00 - His father's diagnosis — the portal vein blood clot with no treatment and five months of caregiving 36:47 - Recording his father on a lapel mic 60 days before he died — every question he would ever want to ask 40:57 - Grief, ego dissolution and what his father's death taught him about faith 46:52 - How he went from atheist to Christian — Yellowstone, his father's death and surrendering in the car 52:58 - The revival of young men turning to faith and his role in it 56:44 - The lonely chapter — how to evolve your friend group without a formal breakup 59:00 - The Purpose Progression Tour — what it is, what to expect and how to find it

MAPS 15 BOGO: https://maps15bogo.com Buy any MAPS 15 program get a second one free. Choose from MAPS 15 Minutes, Symmetry, Strong, Powerlift, Performance, Muscle Mommy and Forty Plus. Lifetime access, no subscription, 30-day money back guarantee. In this episode the guys break down how AI workout programs and GLP-1 use are changing the fitness world — and where the risks lie. They cover why AI can give you a better workout program than a magazine but will never be able to coach you the way a human can, why real coaching is about relationship, boundaries and human experience not just the right answers, why GLP-1 works primarily by suppressing hunger and nothing else, why using it without behavioral change is exactly like bariatric surgery where the weight eventually comes back, and the early data showing GLP effectiveness begins to wane after years of use. They also cover the wild Joovv study where participants worked out both arms and only red-lighted one — and the red-lighted arm built more muscle, Justin's flu story including the Navy-Air Force game, Adam's Disneyland observation that fit couples are everywhere now, Sal's full-on rodent infestation and how he turned it into a war game bonding moment with his five-year-old, Max's General Grievous Halloween costume at Disneyland Boogie Bash and the 40 people who stopped to compliment it, and the Dane Cook Apple documentary worth watching. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. T-Shirt Winners: Apple Podcasts: Etndixiechick Facebook: Dori Orlowski Send name, shirt size and shipping address to: itunes@mindpumpmedia.com SPONSORS Joovv (red light therapy): https://joovv.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for $50 off first purchase. Dose for Your Liver: https://dosedaily.co/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for 35% off first month subscription. LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:47 - AI workout programs and GLP-1 are changing the fitness world — obesity rates are dropping for the first time in decades 10:05 - Why AI can give you the right answers but will never be able to coach you 18:29 - GLP-1 works by suppressing hunger — that is it — and why that makes it a tool not an answer 24:14 - Why GLP effectiveness wanes over years and the bariatric surgery parallel 29:29 - The Joovv red light study — one arm got red lighted, one didn't — the red-lighted arm built more muscle 33:41 - Justin's flu story — Navy-Air Force game, his son sick at the Airbnb and rallying to come back to work too soon 39:02 - Sal's rodent infestation — war mode activated, five-year-old as his partner in battle 47:19 - Adam's Disneyland observation — fit couples everywhere and the grocery store confirmation 56:28 - Max's General Grievous costume at Boogie Bash and 40 strangers stopping to compliment it 1:01:31 - Caller: Marilyn (California) — GLP-1 side effects, SIBO symptoms, gastroparesis concerns, gets gut health protocol 1:14:35 - Caller: Luke (California) — pianist, six years sober, piano teacher told him he has too much muscle, gets Old Time Strength 1:28:07 - Caller: Alan (Texas) — hypertension, hospitalized, lower back pain, shoulder pain, restless sleep, gets MAPS 15 Performance 1:44:34 - Caller: Bobby (New Jersey) — 90-day check-in, MAPS 15 worked, wants to add kettlebells, gets four-day structure

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down the best supersets for every muscle group. They cover what a superset actually is, the three types (isolation to compound, compound to isolation, and heavy to explosive using post-activation potentiation), and then go through their personal favorites for chest, back, shoulders, glutes, quads, hamstrings, triceps, biceps, calves and core. Highlights include Sal's dumbbell pullover to pull-up for back, Adam's incline press to cable fly for chest, Justin's lateral raise to Viking press for shoulders, hip thrust to walking lunges for glutes, barbell squat to sissy squat for quads, conventional deadlift to seated leg curl for hamstrings, tricep pressdown to close-grip push-up for triceps, preacher curl to incline curl for biceps, and decline sit-ups to cable chops for core. SPONSORS Zbiotics Pre-Alcohol: https://zbiotics.com/MINDPUMP26 Code: MINDPUMP26 for 15% off first purchase. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia SPOTIFY TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro 2:30 - What is a superset and why bodybuilders use them 4:28 - Type 1: Isolation to compound — the pre-exhaustion superset and why Sal tried it at 15 8:16 - Type 2: Compound to isolation — the traditional bodybuilding superset for maximum pump 13:14 - Type 3: Heavy to explosive — post-activation potentiation for athletes 16:50 - Best superset for chest, back and shoulders 21:57 - Best superset for glutes, quads and hamstrings 25:01 - Best superset for triceps, biceps and calves 28:50 - Best superset for core — and when to use supersets and when to stop

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down everything about TRT — who it is for, who it is not for, and how to use it correctly. They cover the consistent decades-long decline in testosterone levels in men, why TRT is not a miracle cure-all if your lifestyle is poor, why the best clinics require patients to exercise and watch their diet, how Adam's best friend visibly changed in just one month without even realizing it, the impact of TRT on libido and marriage, and the Viagra and divorce spike story. They also cover the Mind Pump Dads group their trainers created independently, the Patrick David piece on fathers at different ages of a child's life, Adam's 100 lessons he reads with Max every night, how his son reacts to the lesson about not trying to fit in, Sal talking to his son about why some jobs pay more than others, Seed probiotic consistency and the sleep quality connection, and how to think about AI implementation in business — where it moves the needle and where it creates expensive distractions. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS MP Hormones / Vita Bella: https://mphormones.com Code: MP249 — first month includes labs, a 45-minute medical consult and testosterone replacement, Enclomiphene or B12 for $249. Minimum 3-month commitment. Available including California. Offer valid through October 31st. Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. Hiya (kids' multivitamin): https://hiyahealth.com/MINDPUMP 50% off first order, no code needed. Zero sugar, non-GMO, vegan, allergy-free, NSF certified. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:36 - TRT — who it is for, who it is not for and how to use it correctly 6:52 - The decades-long decline in testosterone levels and why nobody knows exactly why 9:21 - TRT is not a miracle cure-all — why lifestyle has to come first 15:03 - Who TRT is not for — the dumpster fire analogy 17:51 - TRT and libido — why this conversation has to happen with your partner 23:19 - Adam's best friend one month in — why he looks five years younger and doesn't even know why 27:52 - The Viagra and divorce spike story 32:21 - Mind Pump Dads — the internal group the trainers built on their own 36:16 - What is a Mind Pump dad — the seven qualities Sal wrote down 40:13 - The Patrick David piece on fathers at every age of a child's life 43:00 - Adam's 100 lessons with Max and the one his son reacts to every single time 50:22 - Seed probiotic consistency and the sleep quality connection 53:16 - Why some jobs pay more than others — Sal explains supply and demand to his son 1:00:39 - AI implementation in business — where it moves the needle and where it creates expensive distractions 1:06:33 - Caller: Ben (California) — security industry, newborn coming in two weeks, shift work, chronically exhausted 1:18:08 - Caller: Isaac (Vancouver) — scoliosis, hip compression, pre-wedding cut, gets MAPS Symmetry guidance 1:27:40 - Caller: Hayden (Canada) — lawyer and hockey coach, Italian family food culture, gets MAPS 15 and whole food rules 1:43:23 - Caller: Sidney (Tennessee) — four kids including a one-year-old, deadlifts 235, feels like she is falling behind

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down why the science got it wrong on small frequent meals — they actually do work for fat loss, just not for the reasons bodybuilders claimed. The thermic effect argument is false, but the behavioral reasons are real: smaller meals keep cravings from getting out of control, they force meal prep which increases consistency, you never have to wait very long before eating again, digestion is easier especially on high protein, and hitting your protein targets becomes dramatically more achievable. They also cover Sal's Caldera Lab eye serum experience after a terrible night of sleep with the mouse situation, a deep dive on all the things they are noticing as they get older (eyesight, ears, hair), the fat and sleep connection Adam discovered when he switched from white meat to red meat and his readiness score jumped immediately, why Eight Sleep is the best single investment for health and fitness, the viral creatine study showing people gained lean mass without lifting (it's just water not muscle), and racetrack country clubs as the next big real estate trend. Then they answer questions from Instagram on knee ligament and tendon strengthening, when to increase dumbbell weight, light reps versus heavy reps close to failure, and how long to run the same program. SPONSORS Caldera Lab (Eye Serum): https://calderalab.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off. Eight Sleep (Pod 5 Ultra): https://eightsleep.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for up to $350 off. HSA/FSA may qualify through Truemed — qualified customers save about 30% on average. Truemed is for qualified customers. HSA/FSA tax savings vary. Our Place (non-toxic cookware): https://fromourplace.com Code: MINDPUMP for 10% off sitewide. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:12 - The science got it wrong — why small frequent meals actually work for fat loss 7:04 - Reason 1: Cravings stay manageable when you don't wait too long between meals 11:42 - Reason 2: Small meals force meal prep which dramatically improves consistency 14:45 - Reason 3: You never have to wait very long and hunger signals don't get loud 16:41 - Reason 4: Digestion is easier — especially when pushing high protein 20:29 - Reason 5: It is much easier to hit your protein targets throughout the day 24:01 - Caldera Lab eye serum — Sal used it after a terrible night of sleep and saw results in 20 minutes 26:36 - Things they are noticing as they get older — eyesight, ears and hair 38:08 - Fat and sleep connection — why Adam's readiness score jumped when he switched to red meat 44:33 - Why Eight Sleep is the best single investment you can make for health and fitness 52:00 - The viral creatine study explained — it is water not muscle 56:27 - Racetrack country clubs — the fastest growing real estate subsegment nobody is talking about 1:02:42 - Q&A: How to strengthen ligaments tendons and joints in the knee 1:06:41 - Q&A: How many reps before you increase dumbbell weight 1:09:58 - Q&A: Does it matter if you go close to failure with light high reps vs heavy low reps 1:12:44 - Q&A: How long is it okay to run the same program

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. Dr. Mike Israetel — co-founder of RP Strength, sport science PhD and competitive bodybuilder — joins the guys in person for a wide-ranging conversation that covers everything from vanity and body image to AI, GLP-1, UFOs and the future of humanity. Mike shares the thesis of his new book on vanity — that caring about your appearance is not inherently bad, that most people in gyms are there to look better even if they say otherwise, and that the data on plastic surgery and weight loss shows a small to moderate psychological uplift for most people with significant variation at the extremes. He and the guys debate whether looking better or the process of earning it is what actually improves quality of life. They also dig into the dissertation controversy and how it happened, the toxic cycle of comparing yourself to others online, why building a brand by taking others down is a losing long-term strategy, Mike's AI optimism and why he thinks the early 2030s will see dramatic breakthroughs in disease, age reversal and mental health treatment, a surprisingly nuanced conversation on GLP-1 — why it works brilliantly when used correctly and terribly when not — homelessness policy, capitalism vs. socialism, libertarianism and the UFO disclosure question with what decorated fighter pilots have actually reported seeing. SPONSORS Vuori: https://vuoriclothing.com/mindpump 20% off first order, no code needed. GUEST LINKS Dr. Mike Israetel: https://www.instagram.com/drmikeisraetel RP Strength: https://www.rpstrength.com Book — Aesthetic Revolution: available in bookstores and online now LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 1:56 - Dr. Mike is back — writing a book on vanity, returning to jiu jitsu and recovering from surgery 3:52 - Why vanity is not as bad as people say — the thesis behind the book 7:21 - What the data actually shows about how looking better affects your quality of life 12:15 - How the process of earning a better physique differs from getting it through surgery 17:43 - Vanity goes bad when you play the comparison game or chase perfectionism 23:38 - The dissertation controversy explained — what actually happened and why 31:31 - Why building a brand by attacking others is a losing long-term strategy 39:03 - Dr. Mike's controversial AI opinions and why he goes on tech podcasts 44:39 - Intelligence is substrate independent — why machines will surpass humans soon 47:03 - The optimistic AI future — disease elimination, age reversal and genetic engineering 54:33 - GLP-1 — why it works brilliantly when used correctly and terribly when not 1:01:35 - Homelessness, capitalism, libertarianism and the hard political questions nobody wants to answer 1:24:12 - UFO disclosure — what decorated fighter pilots have actually reported seeing

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down the worst fitness lies that are quietly holding people back — harder is not always better and sometimes kills your progress, more is not better when the stress bucket is already full, walking absolutely counts and dramatically improves longevity at 8 to 10,000 steps a day, soreness does not mean your workout was effective and the opposite is often true, and cardio is for endurance not fat loss which always comes from diet. Justin is out sick so this is Sal and Adam only. They also cover how both of them are in a calorie deficit and using Kion essential amino acids to preserve muscle, Adam's hilarious medium underwear situation that sent him into a mild panic, where they think their body fat currently is and why they are both delaying the DEXA test on purpose, and Sal trying the Victory Super Patch before recording and noticing subjective performance improvements that rival creatine and caffeine in D1 athlete studies. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. T-Shirt Winners: Apple Podcasts: Quezzy813 Facebook: Maple Cochrane Send name, shirt size and shipping address to: itunes@mindpumpmedia.com SPONSORS My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Kion (essential amino acids): https://getkion.com/mindpump 20% off automatically applied at checkout, no code needed. Super Patch (Victory patch): https://mindpump.superpatch.com No code needed, use URL for $30 off. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:59 - Worst fitness lies that are holding you back — Justin is out, this is Sal and Adam only 5:05 - Lie 1: Harder is better — why this is the most destructive belief in fitness 13:23 - Lie 2: More is better — why activity and workouts are not the same thing 19:53 - Lie 3: Walking doesn't count — why Sal went from dismissing it to prescribing it first 25:18 - Lie 4: Soreness means your workout was effective — why the opposite is often true 28:41 - Lie 5: Cardio is for fat loss — why cardio is for endurance and diet is for fat loss 32:36 - Kion essential amino acids during a deficit — how Sal and Adam are both holding muscle 34:21 - Adam's medium underwear situation and the mild panic it caused 38:17 - Where their body fat is right now and why they are both delaying the DEXA test on purpose 54:15 - Victory Super Patch — why Sal tried it before recording and what he noticed 59:07 - Caller: Ann (Massachusetts) — 65-year-old yoga instructor, 37% body fat on DEXA, chronically underfed, gets coaching referral and reverse diet strategy 1:15:44 - Caller: Aaron (Tennessee) — elite ultimate frisbee player, hamstring tear, shoulder labrum surgery, gets MAPS Performance and sport nutrition advice 1:42:51 - Caller: Christina (Missouri) — returning caller, 51 years old, osteoporosis, hitting PRs, gets told to burn the scan and keep pushing calories 1:57:38 - Caller: Kaitlyn (New York) — returning caller, fully healed from cannabinoid hyperemesis, 30 days residential mental health treatment, gets advice on eating through stress and building routine

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down why working out seven days a week is counterproductive for almost everyone. They cover the critical difference between a workout (aiming for a specific adaptation like strength, stamina or mobility) and activity (simply moving), why workouts are a physical stress on the body with a limited capacity, why recovery and adaptation are two different things and most people only get the former, why the perfect dose beats the max tolerable dose every time, and why intensity is the most important lever to adjust before cutting volume or frequency. They also cover how all other life stressors — sleep, work, relationships, diet — draw from the same stress budget as your training, why full body three days a week controls all three variables so effectively, and why Adam found it difficult to skip a workout even when his readiness score was low after several high-activity days in a row. SPONSORS Rho Nutrition (liposomal supplements): https://www.rhonutrition.com/discount/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off everything. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 3:02 - Why working out seven days a week is counterproductive for almost everyone 4:12 - The difference between a workout and activity — why this distinction changes everything 7:08 - Workouts are a stress on the body — and you have a limited capacity for stress 10:46 - Recovery vs. adaptation — why most people only get one without the other 13:00 - Why people plateau doing the same workout four days a week with no results 14:27 - Perfect dose vs. max tolerable dose — why more is not better 16:38 - Why you are better off doing slightly too little than slightly too much 19:33 - Intensity, duration and frequency — the three levers and which one matters most 21:29 - Why full body three days a week controls all three variables so effectively 23:10 - Strength, stamina and mobility — the three adaptations your workouts should chase

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down why you are still carrying body fat even though you work out consistently — eating out regularly adds 1,200 to 1,400 hidden calories per meal, processed foods are engineered to make you eat 600 more calories before feeling satisfied, not prioritizing protein leaves you naturally hungrier all day, eating while distracted adds 10 to 15% more calories per meal, and drinking alcohol reduces inhibitions and disrupts sleep. They also cover a Kings College London study linking cannabis use to higher rates of both committing and experiencing violence and why the guys think the methodology is flawed, how Joymode stacked with sauna is Sal's pre-podcast energy hack, Katrina accidentally giving Adam the best compliment of the year while trying to insult him during an argument, data showing teenage LGBT identification spiked from 10% in 2015 to 25% in 2021 and has since dropped back to 15% and what that suggests about social influence, and the behind-the-scenes story of how Napoleon Dynamite was shot at a real Idaho high school on a $400,000 budget with real students. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs T-Shirt Winners: None listed this episode. SPONSORS Joymode (sexual performance booster): https://tryjoymode.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off first order. LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. Butcher Box: https://butcherbox.com/mindpump No code needed. Free ribeyes, NY strip steaks or filet mignons in every order for a year plus $20 off first box. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:31 - Why you're still fat even though you work out 9:17 - Reason 1: You eat out — the average restaurant meal is 1,200 to 1,400 hidden calories 12:55 - Reason 2: You eat processed foods — engineered to make you eat 600 more calories 16:09 - Reason 3: You don't prioritize protein — why this changes everything naturally 18:29 - Reason 4: You eat while distracted — 10 to 15% more calories every meal 21:09 - Reason 5: You drink alcohol — 200 calories and wrecked sleep 25:21 - Cannabis and violence study — why the guys think the methodology is flawed 35:40 - Joymode stacked with sauna — Sal's pre-podcast energy hack explained 37:46 - Katrina accidentally gives Adam the best compliment of the year while trying to insult him 40:30 - Teenage LGBT identification data — 10% in 2015, spiked to 25%, back to 15% now 44:46 - Napoleon Dynamite shot at a real Idaho high school on a $400K budget with real students 1:01:00 - Caller: Rachel (England) — 60-day update, strength up, definition showing, husband noticed 1:05:00 - Caller: Haley (Michigan) — pro basketball player, torn ACL both meniscus, gut issues, gets psyllium husk and sodium protocol 1:26:34 - Caller: David (Massachusetts) — 505 pounds down to 264, plateau, gets MAPS Symmetry and body dysmorphia reality check 1:43:21 - Caller: Heather (Minnesota) — ultramarathon runner peeing blood at mile 38 for the third time, gets MAPS 15 Symmetry and a coaching career suggestion

My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program. Answer 20 questions, get a program built for your specific goals and equipment, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it. In this episode the guys break down the red flags to watch for when hiring an online fitness coach. They cover why 100+ clients per coach is a massive red flag, why you need to ask specifically how AI is being used (most coaching software now auto-responds to clients with AI without disclosing it), how often you will actually be in contact with a real human, and what the right answer is when you ask a coach what matters most to them about their clients. They also cover Sal running MAPS Anabolic three days a week in a deficit and feeling stronger than ever, Adam's Oura Ring hitting its highest readiness score in weeks after three days completely unplugged on a road trip, the Paleo Valley organ complex breakdown (liver, heart and kidney in capsule form), the story of Maximilian Kolbe who voluntarily took a stranger's place in a Nazi starvation block, the public speaker vs. communicator distinction and why Sal sweats through his shirts before every speaking engagement, the Andre Iguodala sleep study showing a 34% drop in points scored and measurably higher fouling rate on poor sleep, how music BPM affects driving focus and speed, why modern society has destroyed patience and why podcasts are the only media format that bucked the fast content trend. Then they answer questions from Instagram. Mind Pump Jobs — Apply to be a trainer: https://mindpumpjobs.com SPONSORS Paleo Valley (organ complex): https://paleovalley.com/mindpump 15% off automatically applied at checkout. Freeze-dried grass-fed beef liver, heart and kidney in capsule form — vitamin A, B12, CoQ10, choline, iron and more in whole food bioavailable form. Joovv (red light therapy): https://joovv.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for $50 off first purchase. Sal notices the difference on Jessica after just two sessions — skin looks noticeably younger. Uses same wavelengths and intensity as the studies. Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:36 - Online coach red flags — the industry has exploded and bad coaches are dangerous 7:41 - Red flag 1: How many clients do you service? 10:35 - Red flag 2: How are you using AI — most apps auto-respond without telling you 16:08 - Red flags 3, 4 and 5: Contact frequency, trainer priorities and authenticity 20:52 - Sal getting stronger in a deficit on MAPS Anabolic three days a week 23:48 - Adam's Oura Ring highest readiness score in weeks after three days unplugged 26:23 - The cortisol stack that fixed waking up at 3am — ashwagandha and phosphatidylserine 29:59 - Paleo Valley organ complex and the Maximilian Kolbe story 35:22 - Public speaker vs. communicator and the Andre Iguodala sleep study 46:14 - Why modern society destroyed patience and why podcasts bucked the fast content trend 59:13 - Q&A: Scoliosis training, sodium tracking, menstrual cycle recovery and home gym equipment

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down five common hypertrophy study findings that do not hold up in the real world — why 15-20 sets per body part per week works in 8-12 week studies but burns out real people within months, why light weight and heavy weight producing the same results ignores how fatigue affects the big compound lifts, why training close to failure being essential misses how powerlifters and Olympic lifters build world-class physiques without it, why frequency not mattering is a study artifact that disappears when you control for real world volume, and why periodization making no difference only holds up because studies are too short. They also cover Sal's conversation with a kid from church whose gains jumped 20 pounds across his big lifts in one month after switching from a 5-day split to full body three days a week, the value of antagonist supersets for saving time and adding variety, the Stallone interview where he revealed bulimia and obsessive body image struggles during Rocky 3, Adam using Kion aminos during his current cut and how they are helping him preserve muscle on lower calories, the Wendy's screamo song ad that Adam thinks is brilliant marketing, Justin's viral Instagram moment ordering a well-done steak by accident, the airport buddy ugly pants trend, the sex recession data showing churchgoing married couples in their 50s and 60s reporting the best and most frequent sex, and Canada's assisted suicide statistics showing over 15,300 deaths last year representing 1 in 20 Canadian deaths. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Apply to be a Mind Pump trainer: https://mindpumpjobs.com T-Shirt Winners: Apple Podcasts: The Life Changer Facebook: Jay Jacob Whittaker Send name, shirt size and shipping address to: itunes@mindpumpmedia.com SPONSORS Kion (essential amino acids): https://getkion.com/mindpump 20% off automatically applied at checkout, no code needed. Dose for Your Liver: https://dosedaily.co/MINDPUMP35 Code: MINDPUMP for 35% off first month subscription. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:12 - Hypertrophy study findings that do not hold up in the real world 6:26 - Myth 1: 15-20 sets per body part is best — why it burns real people out in months 10:14 - Myth 2: Light and heavy weight build the same muscle — what the fatigue data misses 12:08 - Myth 3: You must train close to failure — what powerlifters prove without doing it 15:53 - Myth 4: More frequency does not help — why controlling volume in studies is impossible in real life 18:12 - Myth 5: Periodization makes no difference — why studies are simply too short to show it 20:01 - Antagonist supersets — why Sal says this is the best way to get more done in less time 23:38 - Stallone's interview — bulimia, Rocky 3 and the dark side of the action hero physique 28:52 - Adam using Kion aminos during his cut and the muscle-sparing effect during low calorie phases 33:33 - The Wendy's screamo ad — why Adam thinks it is one of the best pieces of fast food marketing ever 35:08 - Justin's viral well-done steak moment and the internet rage that followed 40:12 - The airport buddy ugly pants trend and what the guys would pick for each other 41:34 - Sex recession data — churchgoing married couples in their 50s and 60s report the best and most frequent sex 47:38 - Canada assisted suicide statistics — 15,300 deaths last year, 1 in 20 Canadian deaths 54:42 - Caller: Cole (South Carolina) — medical student, thyroid removed, gets MAPS 15 for the long haul 1:00:21 - Caller: Ellen (Indiana) — 32-year-old, two kids, still nursing, back from infertility history, stays the course 1:10:41 - Caller: Michel (Maryland) — OCP personality, wants to be a personal trainer, Sal talks faith and letting go 1:26:51 - Caller: Beth (Georgia) — returning NFL exec, body fat too low at 17%, needs to eat more and gain body fat

MAPS Sale:⁠ https://mapsfitnessproducts.com⁠Code: SCARY40 for 40% off everything sitewide for 3 days only. Also: MAPS Abs and Butt at⁠ https://mapsabsandbutt.com⁠ — Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. In this episode the guys sit down and tell the full origin story of how they each got into fitness and the personal training industry. Sal shares starting at 13 with plastic sand-filled dumbbells, spotting his dad benching 300 pounds, getting his first job at 24 Hour Fitness at 18 with zero certification, and selling $6,000 of personal training on his first day without knowing what it cost. Adam shares falling into fitness accidentally, the moment money sold him on making it a career, his early knack for communicating ideas rather than science, and becoming a fitness manager at 18. Justin shares moving to the Midwest alone knowing nobody, reinventing himself completely, the reinvention that started it all, and his first cold call becoming his wife. Doug shares the Rocky 3 physique inspiring his training in his 30s and the plateau that followed. The guys also cover their biggest regrets — Sal not listening to the bodybuilder who told him exactly how to train at 16, Adam's early steroid experimentation and the crash that followed, and Justin's lack of mobility training during college football costing him his speed. The episode closes with each of them reflecting on why they still love this industry after 30-plus years and why they genuinely cannot wait for Mondays. Apply to be a Mind Pump trainer:⁠ https://mindpumpjobs.com⁠ SPONSORS Legion (supplements):⁠ https://buylegion.com/mindpump⁠ Code: MINDPUMP — new customers buy one get one 50% off, returning customers get 20% cash back. LINKS Mind Pump Store:⁠ https://mindpumpstore.com⁠ Maps Fitness Products:⁠ https://mapsfitnessproducts.com⁠ Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:09 - How the guys got into fitness — telling the full origin story 3:16 - Sal's origin — plastic dumbbells at 13, spotting his dad at 300 pounds 4:37 - Adam's origin — falling into fitness at 24 Hour Fitness across from his grandmother's house 12:42 - Justin's origin — the chip on his shoulder, football and moving to the Midwest alone 16:38 - Doug's origin — Rocky 3 and the plateau that followed every program 18:43 - Biggest regrets — Sal ignores the bodybuilder who told him exactly how to train 21:30 - Justin gains 30 pounds for football in one summer and loses his speed 23:38 - Adam's early steroid use and the hormonal crash that followed in his early 30s 28:47 - Day one stories — selling training without knowing what it cost, firing an employee at 18 42:30 - How Justin shattered Adam's idea of what a great trainer needed to look like 49:48 - The best management advice Adam ever received and the team he is most proud of 1:12:00 - Why they still love this industry after 30 years and why they cannot wait for Mondays

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the secrets for training in a calorie deficit — why bodyweight lifts are psychologically and physically the best choice when cutting, what it actually feels like to train depleted and why anticipating it helps you push through, why low reps beat high reps in a deficit because they preserve muscle with far less stress on the body, why nighttime hunger is normal and how to reframe it instead of fighting it, and the sodium hack that makes you feel dramatically better when eating whole foods and low carbs. They also cover Parachew and how paraxanthine gives you the clean energy of caffeine without the jitters, crash or sleep disruption, Adam training with his wife in the garage and her calling out that he flipped his plan from "lower volume" to "get shredded" without realizing it, how Adam's readiness score went from 47 to the high 70s after taking three days off and the three pounds of inflammation that dropped overnight, the Noah's Ark ground-penetrating radar findings and the pattern of biblical archaeology validating stories that scientists dismissed, the Founder School that charges $150,000 a year but refunds it all if you do not build a $1 million profitable business by graduation, the patron saint of comedians who said "turn me over, I'm done on this side" while being grilled alive, and Caldera Lab eye serum and the clinical study results. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS Parachew (paraxanthine gummies): https://parachew.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off first order. Caldera Lab (Eye Serum): https://calderalab.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off. Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:24 - Secrets for training in a calorie deficit 5:36 - Secret 1: Bodyweight lifts — pull ups and dips get better as you get lighter 8:25 - Secret 2: Anticipate the depleted training feel — it is supposed to feel different 11:55 - Secret 3: Low reps work better in a deficit — less volume, less stress, more muscle preserved 14:03 - Why you should dramatically cut volume when calories drop 16:45 - Secret 4: You will feel hungry at night — make friends with it 18:49 - Secret 5: The sodium hack — bump sodium when whole food calories drop 21:07 - Parachew — what paraxanthine is and why it beats caffeine for afternoon energy 27:51 - Adam's wife calls him out for flipping from lower volume to trying to get shredded 32:22 - Adam's readiness score went from 47 to the high 70s after three days off 38:39 - Noah's Ark ground-penetrating radar findings and the pattern of biblical archaeology 48:26 - Founder School — $150K per year, full refund if you do not build a $1 million business by graduation 57:57 - Caldera Lab eye serum and the clinical study results 1:01:25 - Caller: Kevin (Massachusetts) — 37-year-old former skateboarder, lifts for 22 months, strong genetics, gets MAPS Anabolic Advanced 1:17:11 - Caller: Jen (West Virginia) — former group fitness instructor, hitting PRs on Muscle Mommy 15, how hard to push at 49, gets full MAPS 15 library 1:24:37 - Caller: Katie (Texas) — returning caller, loves Old Time Strength and Performance, ready for MAPS Upper Lower and a calorie push 1:32:43 - Caller: Jessica (Massachusetts) — returning caller, eating disorder history, up to 1900 calories at 50/50 consistency, starts therapy, gets grace and direction

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the best forms of cardio for fat loss, endurance and athleticism. They cover why walking is the best cardio for fat loss, why steady state is best for building endurance, why HIIT develops the kind of explosive stamina that sports actually require, and why playing a sport or just going out and having fun is the most underrated form of cardio for everything. They also get into Butcher Box pricing vs. fast food and why the grass-fed quality argument actually makes financial sense, Adam tracking his calorie burn on Oura and noticing how fitness naturally increases NEAT over time, Adam's fat loss competition strategy heading into a Cabo trip, the origin of the phrase blowing smoke, the Canadian grandma euthanasia lawsuit that has everyone appalled, Max starting drum lessons and showing real promise in his first session, and Justin finally agreeing to do the Organifi parasite cleanse. Then they answer questions from Instagram. SPONSORS Butcher Box: https://butcherbox.com/mindpump No code needed. Free ribeyes, NY strip steaks or filet mignons in every order for a year plus $20 off first box. Organifi (parasite cleanse): https://organifi.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off. LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:06 - Best cardio for fat loss, endurance and athleticism — the breakdown 3:25 - Walking for fat loss — why this is the best form of cardio for body composition 8:06 - Why strength training should always take priority over cardio in a deficit 13:27 - Steady state cardio for endurance — who it's actually for and when to use it 15:56 - HIIT for athleticism — the explosive stamina that sports actually require 21:09 - Sport and play — the most underrated form of cardio for everything 25:56 - Butcher Box pricing breakdown — why grass-fed quality actually saves you money 30:18 - Adam tracking calorie burn on Oura — how fitness naturally increases NEAT over time 36:06 - Adam's fat loss competition strategy heading into Cabo 37:54 - The origin of blowing smoke — the real 18th century medical practice 40:19 - Canadian grandma euthanasia lawsuit — held down against her will 42:01 - Max starts drum lessons and shows real promise in his first session 59:22 - Justin finally agrees to do the Organifi parasite cleanse 1:03:49 - Q&A: Does it matter if you get close to failure with light high reps vs heavy low reps? 1:06:49 - Q&A: How important is leg strength if you have great balance endurance and can push a sled? 1:09:42 - Q&A: Is going heavy two months out from a bodybuilding show actually worth it? 1:13:59 - Q&A: How to cope with chronic shoulder bursitis beyond cortisone shots

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down how cardio keeps getting rebranded with new names and logos while staying the same activity underneath. They cover cozy cardio, Japanese walking, the 666 walk, the 3-2-8 method, the fart walk, retro walking, zone two, rucking, High Rocks, Orange Theory and F45, the hot girl walk and the 8000 steps data — explaining what each one is, who it is actually good for, and why none of them are the best tool for the body composition goals most people are actually chasing. They also break down the winning formula for how to think about cardio: activity for health versus endurance for performance versus strength training for aesthetics. Free resource: 3 Mistakes with HIIT Programs — https://mindpumpfree.com SPONSORS Rho Nutrition (liposomal supplements): https://www.rhonutrition.com/discount/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off everything. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:14 - Cardio got rebranded and you fell for it — what's actually going on 3:34 - Who cardio is actually for and who it is not for 5:54 - Cozy cardio — candles, slippers and a latte on the treadmill 7:44 - Japanese walking — three minutes fast, three minutes easy, repeat 8:53 - The 666 walk and the 3-2-8 method 10:21 - The fart walk — ten minutes post-meal and why it is actually the best one here 13:03 - Retro walking — walking backwards and why this is the least favorite 14:19 - Zone two cardio — the fat burning zone myth revisited 17:04 - Rucking — who it is actually for and why it is not a body composition tool 18:49 - High Rocks — the CrossFit alternative and the sport vs aesthetics distinction 20:57 - Orange Theory and F45 — cardio with weights is still cardio 23:46 - The hot girl walk — great branding, great community, still just walking 26:50 - The 8000 steps data — where the real benefits actually plateau 28:57 - The winning formula — activity vs endurance vs strength training for aesthetics

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down five fat loss diet myths — why feeling hungry during a cut is normal and expected (and why reframing it is the key), why no food actually burns body fat, why a calorie is not just a calorie when it comes to behavior and palatability, why neither carbs nor fat are the enemy, and why treating food as just fuel is a dysfunctional mindset that most people cannot actually live by. They also cover Sal and Adam both happening to sync up on a winter cut, Sal taking 5-amino-1MQ from MP Hormones for NAD support and fat metabolism, Adam's Oura ring readiness score data after the team pickleball tournament showing how much inflammation can hold water weight even during a perfect week of dieting, the free weights vs machines study debate between Sal and Brad Schoenfeld on X, Andy Galpin's set volume recommendations and why they do not apply to everyday people, Adam sleeping through a heat wave with a broken AC using only his Eight Sleep Pod at 85 degrees in the room, and the Woodstock 99 Limp Bizkit moment that started it all. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. T-Shirt Winners: Apple Podcasts: Cinflute7 Facebook: Amanda Lee and Jerry Swab Send name, shirt size and shipping address to: itunes@mindpumpmedia.com SPONSORS Eight Sleep (Pod 5 Ultra): https://eightsleep.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for up to $350 off. Vita Bella / MP Hormones: https://mphormones.com Code: MINDPUMP365 to unlock exclusive annual membership perks. Joovv (red light therapy): https://joovv.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for $50 off first purchase. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:37 - 5 fat loss diet myths that make losing body fat nearly impossible 5:06 - Myth 1: You should never feel hungry if you're doing it right 10:36 - Myth 2: There are fat burning foods 13:10 - Myth 3: A calorie is a calorie is a calorie 17:23 - Myth 4: Carbs or fats make you fat 21:28 - Myth 5: Food is just fuel — and why this mindset is dysfunctional 24:46 - Sal and Adam both on a winter cut — and Sal is taking 5-amino-1MQ for NAD and fat metabolism 28:33 - Adam's Oura ring readiness score after the pickleball tournament — why you can look worse holding water even on a perfect week 36:04 - Correcting the over-correction — why the worst thing to do when water is up is push harder 38:18 - Woodstock 99 — the moment Limp Bizkit broke it and why music moves culture 43:13 - Free weights vs machines study debate — Sal's response to Brad Schoenfeld on X 47:13 - Andy Galpin's set volume recommendations and why they do not apply to real people 49:37 - Adam's AC breaks during a 102-degree heat wave — sleeps through it on Eight Sleep with all covers on 58:47 - Joovv red light therapy — why it is the only red light brand that matches study wavelengths 59:50 - Caller: Susan (Missouri) — 51 years old, 22% body fat, two years with an online coach, ready to go independent, gets MAPS People and concierge option 1:09:19 - Caller: Alvin (Florida) — 64 years old, glider pilot, long distance hiker, lost ability to squat, gets MAPS Starter and creatine advice 1:20:27 - Caller: Jordan (Arizona) — 21 years old, 9.8% body fat, lost menstrual cycle, needs to reverse diet, gets coaching referral 1:33:17 - Caller: Returning caller (California) — hypermobility, single mom, gets MAPS Symmetry isometric protocol and community advice

MAPS Abs & Butt is still 40% off: ⁠https://mapsabsandbutt.com⁠ If your goal is a stronger, rounder butt and visible abs, this episode gives you the programming logic, the exercise selection, the rep ranges, the rest periods, and the mindset shift you need to actually make it happen. In this episode: • Rest periods are what make strength training strength training: resting two to four minutes between hard sets trains the energy system tied to muscle growth, while cutting rest short shifts you into aerobic, stamina-based work that does NOT build the butt • A study in the Journal of Applied Physiology confirmed that heavy load versus light load matters far less than effort: sets taken close to failure build muscle regardless of whether you are using five-pound or fifty-pound dumbbells • Progressive overload does not just mean adding weight — slowing the rep tempo, pausing at peak contraction, adding reps, or changing the angle of an exercise all challenge the body to adapt and grow without a single extra pound • A Frontiers in Physiology study on glute growth ranked hip thrusts and deep squats at the top, followed closely by Romanian deadlifts, all of which can be done at home with dumbbells alone • The biggest programming mistake when targeting a specific body part is stacking extra volume ON TOP of your existing program; you must reduce volume on non-priority muscles to one to two maintenance sets per week so recovery can actually happen • Strength gains always precede visible aesthetic changes: for the first few weeks you will get stronger without much mirror feedback, but the muscle and fat loss follow reliably once the strength accumulates • A subpar program done consistently beats a superior program done inconsistently — removing the commute and friction of a commercial gym dramatically raises the odds you actually show up • To build the glutes while also shrinking the waist, focus on reverse dieting and building first; muscle speeds the metabolism, which makes the subsequent fat-loss phase far more effective and easier to sustain Chapters: 00:23 Intro 01:23 MAPS Abs and Butt Launch 01:50 Why a Gym Is Not Required 03:19 Strength Training vs. HIIT at Home 04:57 Progressive Overload Explained 07:00 Why Rest and Heavy Loads Build Glutes 11:00 The Case for Working Out at Home 14:27 Best Exercises for Glute Growth 17:45 The Exact Training Recipe 20:00 How to Balance Volume Across the Body 20:48 Two Free Sample Workouts 22:56 Building Glutes and Losing Waist at the Same Time Products: MAPS Abs & Butt: ⁠https://mapsabsandbutt.com⁠ Sponsors: Ketone-IQ: ⁠https://ketone.com/mindpump⁠ Mentioned: Arnold Schwarzenegger: Referenced for his famous claim that he could make one exercise more effective than most people's entire one-hour workout.

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down how to cut fat and keep muscle — covering why you need to be in a good metabolic position before you start cutting, why letting food create the deficit beats trying to burn calories through exercise, why cutting volume during a cut is counterintuitive but essential, and why increasing low-stress activity like walking is the secret sauce for getting lean without losing muscle. They also cover Adam's friend who dropped total cholesterol from 293 to 201 and LDL from 200 to 124 using Dose alongside dietary changes, a processed food study linking ultra-processed foods to hidden intramuscular fat in the thighs, the first reversal of adult obesity rates in decades and why GLP-1 is almost certainly responsible, new data showing GLP-1 improving psoriasis before weight loss even begins suggesting an independent autoimmune mechanism, Sal two and a half weeks into MAPS Anabolic for the first time in years and the strength gains already surprising him, Adam's friend Ryan DeVita finally diagnosing the pec major tear that has been baffling Adam for months, and Sal noticing a dramatic difference in digestion after running out of Seed for two weeks. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS Dose for Your Liver: https://dosedaily.co/MINDPUMP35 Code: MINDPUMP35 for 35% off first month subscription. Adam's friend dropped total cholesterol from 293 to 201 and LDL from 200 to 124 — all natural liquid supplement with clinical studies behind it. Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. Sal ran out for two weeks and noticed a huge difference in digestion — confirms it works best as a daily consistent habit. Butcher Box: https://butcherbox.com/mindpump No code needed. Free ribeyes, NY strip steaks or filet mignons in every order for a year plus $20 off first box. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:18 - How to cut fat and keep muscle — why your body wants to lose muscle when you diet 8:35 - Step 1: Are you in a good metabolic position to cut from? 9:59 - Step 2: Let food create the deficit — stop leaning on exercise to burn calories 13:03 - Step 3: Lower your training volume — this is the opposite of what most people do 16:00 - Step 4: Increase low stress activity — walking is the secret sauce for getting shredded 18:18 - Step 5: Eat in ways that produce satiety — whole foods and high protein 23:31 - Adam's friend drops cholesterol from 293 to 201 using Dose and dietary changes 28:33 - Ultra-processed food study — hidden intramuscular thigh fat linked to processed food intake 33:41 - Adult obesity rates reversed for the first time in decades — GLP-1 is almost certainly responsible 42:43 - GLP-1 improving psoriasis before weight loss begins — independent autoimmune mechanism 52:51 - Sal two and a half weeks into MAPS Anabolic Phase 1 — why he is only adding 2.5 pounds at a time 57:35 - Ryan DeVita diagnoses Adam's pec major tear that has been baffling him for months 1:00:28 - Sal runs out of Seed for two weeks and notices a huge difference in digestion 1:04:15 - Caller: Kyle (British Columbia) — returning caller, 6 pounds of lean mass in 90 days, gets MAPS Upper Lower and Powerlift package 1:19:01 - Caller: Justin (California) — law enforcement, 3-4 night shifts a week, 4-5 hours sleep, gets MAPS 15 and sleep strategy 1:31:07 - Caller: Casey (North Carolina) — returning caller, Hashimoto's, gluten-free 90 days, no scale change but all markers improved

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down seven easy food swaps that lower calories, bump protein and still taste great — protein snacks over carb snacks (Crisp Power honey mustard), high-protein Greek yogurt desserts with cocoa whip and berries, shelled nuts instead of pre-shelled roasted ones, grass-fed beef over grain-fed (200-calorie difference in a 12oz ribeye), two lettuce-wrapped burgers instead of a burger and fries, crustless pizza in an iron skillet, and spaghetti squash instead of pasta. They also do a deep dive into Gen Z male depression and anxiety data — why this is the first generation doing worse than midlife adults in mental health metrics, and what the data says actually helps: lifting weights (50% reduction in depression and anxiety symptoms), going to church (33% lower odds of developing depression), and getting a job (95% higher mental health risk when unemployed). They also cover the new FDA-approved myostatin inhibiting drug, bone broth protein for people with high-protein digestion issues, and the anti-protein influencer backlash. Then they answer questions from Instagram. SPONSORS Crisp Power (honey mustard protein pretzels): https://www.crisppower.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 10% off. Honey mustard flavor discussed on air — 25-28g protein per bag, high fiber, zero added sugar. Paleo Valley (bone broth protein): https://paleovalley.com/mindpump 15% off automatically applied at checkout. Bone broth protein discussed on air — easiest to digest protein the guys have used, chocolate flavor tastes like a chocolate donut. Fatty15 (C15 essential fatty acid): https://fatty15.com/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for additional 15% off 90-day Starter Kit. First new essential fatty acid discovered in over 90 years. 3x more cellular benefits than omega-3. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - 7 food swaps for better results — eat this not that 0:00 - Swap 1: Carb snacks for protein snacks — why Crisp Power honey mustard kills cravings 5:35 - Swap 2: Desserts — Greek yogurt whipped cream, cocoa whip rice cakes and protein balls 9:16 - Swap 3: Shelled nuts instead of pre-shelled roasted ones 11:15 - Swap 4: Grass-fed for grain-fed beef — 200 fewer calories in a 12oz ribeye 13:20 - Swap 5: Two lettuce-wrapped burgers instead of a burger and fries 16:01 - Swap 6: Crustless pizza in an iron skillet 17:17 - Swap 7: Spaghetti squash instead of pasta 21:05 - Gen Z male depression data — first generation doing worse than midlife adults 22:55 - Lifting weights reduces depression symptoms by 50% 30:17 - Church attendance reduces depression odds 33% 31:35 - Getting a job — 95% higher mental health risk when unemployed 36:15 - Music and pain tolerance — eye of the tiger experiment and the metal festival study 44:07 - Bone broth protein for people who struggle with high protein digestion 47:26 - Myostatin inhibiting drug just got FDA approval 55:21 - Q&A: How to figure out your average calorie burn for muscle building 58:33 - Q&A: How long should I be in maintenance before cutting after a reverse diet 59:53 - Q&A: Steroids vs. peptides — what is the difference? 1:03:48 - Q&A: How to avoid the yo-yo of progressive overload injuries and crippling soreness

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). Dr. Stephen Cabral returns to break down the seven blood markers that predict heart disease better than cholesterol. He explains what each one means, what optimal ranges look like versus what standard lab ranges say, and how to improve each one through diet, exercise and targeted supplementation. He then reveals the guys' individual omega-6 to omega-3 inflammation test results live on air — comparing where they were two years ago to where they are now and why Doug is the clear winner. They also cover the cyclosporiasis parasite outbreak in lettuce, natural parasite treatment protocols, PDE5 inhibitors for cardiovascular health, why glucose monitors are overused in athletic populations, and whether rancid fish oil is a real problem and how to avoid it. 50% Off Inflammation Test https://stephencabral.com/inflammation SPONSORS Zbiotics Pre-Alcohol: https://zbiotics.com/MINDPUMP26 Code: MINDPUMP26 for 15% off first purchase. World's first genetically engineered probiotic. Breaks down acetaldehyde in the gut before it causes next-day issues. GUEST LINKS Dr. Stephen Cabral: https://stephencabral.com Inflammation test: https://stephencabral.com/inflammation LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 3:03 - 7 blood markers that predict heart disease better than cholesterol 4:38 - Marker 1: ApoB — the most important predictor of arterial plaque that all cardiologists now look at 8:12 - Marker 2: High sensitivity CRP — how chronic inflammation embeds cholesterol into arterial tissue 10:05 - Marker 3: Homocysteine — methylation issues, optimal range and the B vitamin fix 12:30 - Marker 4: Total cholesterol to HDL ratio — why a 3 to 1 ratio is the target 14:57 - Marker 5: Triglycerides to HDL ratio — the metabolic disease predictor most doctors ignore 20:13 - Marker 6: Hemoglobin A1C — why athletes with spiking glucose still have perfect A1C 25:03 - Marker 7: Omega-6 to omega-3 ratio — 90% cardiovascular death risk reduction above 9% saturation 30:49 - The guys' live omega inflammation test results — two years of data revealed 35:08 - Adam's result — dropped from 7.3 to 6.0 without supplementing 36:23 - Sal's result — improved from 7.8 to 4.9 with sardines and omegas 37:55 - Doug's result — already at 3.7 and winning the whole room 43:18 - How to choose a quality fish oil — cold processed, third party tested, no mercury 46:28 - When to take vitamin D vs omega-3 and why timing matters 48:01 - Cyclosporiasis parasite outbreak and natural parasite treatment protocols 52:12 - Dr. Cabral's free at-home inflammation test — how to get it

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down rep speed — slow reps, fast reps and pause reps — and what the data actually says. They cover why saying it doesn't matter for hypertrophy misses the nuance completely, why injury risk alone makes rep speed matter enormously, why slow reps are essential for mind muscle connection and targeted esthetics, when moving fast matters for performance and everyday functionality, and why the novelty effect of switching rep speeds over time likely builds more muscle long term. Adam also shares why he does fasted cardio even though studies say it doesn't matter for fat loss — and why all the behavioral cascades it creates are the real reason it works. They cover the explosive growth of the electrolyte powder market (LMNT went from $7 million in 2020 to $206 million in 2023 and created the category), reading Love and Respect by Dr. Emerson Eggerichs and why respect and love are fundamentally different needs for men and women, the challenges vegans face hitting protein and why Organifi plant protein is the best vegan protein they've used, and the upcoming Mind Pump pickleball tournament. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. SPONSORS LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. Deep dive on air — how LMNT created the electrolyte powder category and grew from $7M to $206M in three years. Organifi (plant protein): https://organifi.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off. Best vegan protein any of them have used — well formulated amino acid profile, glyphosate free, low heavy metals, easy to digest and actually tastes good. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:25 - Slow reps vs. fast reps vs. pause reps — what the data actually says 5:48 - Why slow reps are essential for technique, safety and mind muscle connection 9:23 - Injury risk is the biggest reason rep speed matters — and why studies miss this 14:28 - Why you need to train speed too — what happens when you never move fast 21:22 - The novelty effect — why changing rep speeds over time builds more muscle long term 23:24 - Why Adam does fasted cardio even though studies say it doesn't matter 28:10 - LMNT and the electrolyte powder market — from $7M to $206M in three years 36:19 - Furnace Fest and why it's the one thing Justin looks forward to all year 38:03 - Love and Respect — the book Sal is reading with his wife and why it clicked 48:08 - The challenges vegans face hitting protein and why Organifi plant protein is the best 53:02 - Mind Pump pickleball tournament — who is the best on the team 56:24 - AI conspiracy twist — Sal's take on why OpenAI and Anthropic are asking for regulation 1:04:44 - Caller: Matilda (Singapore) — returning caller, period back after one month, now gaining weight on 2700 calories, wants to drop tracking and switch programs 1:12:08 - Caller: Malia (Illinois) — type 1 diabetes, 20,000 steps a day, 1800 calories, DEXA not improving, gets coaching referral 1:26:05 - Caller: Shell (Pennsylvania) — full time RV dweller, wakes at 2am to work, DEXA getting worse every time, sleep is the clear issue 1:42:29 - Caller: Andrew (Washington) — CrossFit background, plant based, 1700 calories, rucking daily, losing lean mass on DEXA, overtrained and underfed

Products: MAPS Abs & Butt: ⁠https://mapsabsandbutt.com⁠ Timestamps: 0:26 New Program Announcement: MAPS Abs and Butt 1:00 The Sleep and Belly Fat Study 1:37 Two Types of People Stuck in This Cycle 3:23 Why Waist Trainers and Ab Circuits Backfire 5:40 The Law of Thermodynamics 7:26 Stress, Cortisol, and Fat Storage Explained 8:07 The Truth About Lean and Toned 11:00 Spot Reduction Is a Myth, Spot Building Is Real 12:16 The Exact Order of Operations to Lose Belly Fat 15:07 How to Actually Train Your Core 21:02 Common Questions Answered 22:05 Real Caller Success Story

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down how to eat more to lose fat — why the body goes into a protective mode when you overtrain and under-eat, why strength is the best metric to track during this process, how to dial in protein at 1g per pound of target body weight, why a 2 to 1 carb to protein ratio fuels muscle and performance, why fats are essential and not something to avoid, and why the scale and mirror are the worst tools to use during a building phase. They also cover a deep dive on red light therapy and why there is almost nothing it does not improve, Sal's rogue AI and digital currency conspiracy theory, kids IQ scores declining internationally and why technology during childhood is partly to blame, Max deciding he is too old for YouTube boss battles during his haircut, Sal's dad and sister both getting dramatic pain relief from the Super Patch freedom patch, ear beads and the acupressure science behind haptic technology, and the new Mr. T documentary on Netflix and the story behind his look and his chains. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS Joovv (red light therapy): https://joovv.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for $50 off first purchase. Improves skin, fat oxidation, muscle building, eyesight and testosterone. Deep dive on air — Sal discusses why there is almost nothing red light does not improve. Super Patch (Freedom pain patch): https://mindpump.superpatch.com No code needed, use URL for $30 off. Sal's dad and sister both experienced dramatic pain relief. Peer-reviewed studies show pain reduction equivalent to an NSAID with no drugs in the patch. Butcher Box: https://butcherbox.com/mindpump No code needed. Free ribeyes, NY strip steaks or filet mignons in every order for a year plus $20 off first box. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:28 - How to eat more to lose fat — why the body goes into protective mode when you overtrain and under-eat 11:57 - Why strength is the best metric to track during a building phase 13:46 - Protein: aim for 1g per pound of target body weight and why it matters 17:33 - Carbs: the 2 to 1 ratio and why carbohydrates fuel strength and muscle 20:44 - Fats: why they are essential and why avoiding them destroys hormones 22:34 - Why the scale and mirror are the worst tools during a build phase 27:46 - Red light therapy deep dive — why Sal says there is nothing it does not improve 33:12 - The rogue AI conspiracy — digital currency, infrastructure attacks and Anthropic going public 46:04 - Kids IQ scores declining internationally and why technology during childhood is to blame 47:51 - Max decides he is getting too old for YouTube boss battles at the barbershop 49:34 - Super Patch pain results — Sal's dad and sister both report dramatic relief 55:39 - Ear beads and acupressure — the haptic technology science behind them 59:57 - The Mr. T Netflix documentary — his look, his chains and the story nobody knew 1:07:35 - Caller: Phillip (Ontario) — returning caller, bulging disc, core weakness discovery, got leaner on less volume 1:22:06 - Caller: Savannah (Florida) — professional equestrian, broke seven and eight ribs, peptide advice and recovery strategy 1:33:19 - Caller: Mike (Arizona) — golf pro, six feet, 15% body fat, DEXA scan, IGF-1 low, on Tesamorelin, MOTS-C and SS-31 1:52:01 - Caller: Michelle (Ontario) — returning caller, back injury, going back to work, daycare stress, mindset shift noticed

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down why everyone should be using isometrics — covering the three types (yielding, overcoming and intra-rep), why they lower blood pressure better than any other form of exercise including medication, how they build strength specifically at the angle you train, how they reduce pain by up to 45% after just one rep, and why tendons strengthen faster with isometrics than traditional lifting. They also get into Adam's Caldera Lab pre-podcast skincare routine and why Sal noticed his skin on the big screen TV, the games kids used to play that are now banned from schools (butts up, Red Rover, baby britches), the Functional Patterns versus Layne Norton beef and why attacking other people in the fitness space is a losing brand strategy, the science of gratitude and how daily practice literally reshapes the structure of your brain, why a cortisol spike from exercise suppresses your next cortisol response making you more resilient all day, Justin showing up to look at a building covered in rock dust after moving four tons of stone alone, liposomal delivery technology and why it matters for creatine, curcumin and glutathione, and Adam's hibachi chef birthday party that took a very unexpected turn. Then they answer questions from Instagram on injury prevention for runners, how to avoid overeating while building muscle, protein for strength without size, and training around plantar fasciitis and a knee replacement. SPONSORS Caldera Lab (The Good serum): https://calderalab.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP20 for 20% off. Adam discusses his pre-podcast skincare routine on air. Rho Nutrition (liposomal creatine, curcumin, NAD+ and Glutathione): https://www.rhonutrition.com/discount/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off everything. Deep dive on liposomal technology on air — why it matters more for some compounds than others and why it solves the creatine gut sensitivity problem. LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:20 - Why everyone should use isometrics — and why they have been forgotten 5:12 - The three types of isometrics: yielding, overcoming and intra-rep 11:17 - Benefit 1: Isometrics lower blood pressure better than any other form of training 13:44 - Benefit 2: Strength at the specific angle — how to blast through sticking points 18:10 - Benefit 3: Pain reduction — 45% reduction after just one rep for tendon pain 19:23 - Benefit 4: Tendon strength builds faster with isometrics than traditional lifting 22:47 - Adam's Caldera Lab pre-podcast routine and what Sal noticed on the big screen TV 26:38 - Games kids used to play that are now banned — butts up, Red Rover and baby britches 30:10 - Functional Patterns vs. Lane Norton beef and why attacking people in fitness is a bad brand strategy 35:15 - The neuroscience of gratitude — how daily practice physically reshapes your brain 46:01 - Exercise cortisol spike suppresses your next stress response — why working out makes you more resilient all day 47:54 - Justin moving four tons of rock alone and the soreness that followed 53:20 - Liposomal technology deep dive — why it matters for creatine, curcumin and glutathione 55:59 - Adam's hibachi birthday party that took a very unexpected turn 1:03:18 - Q&A: Best exercises to prevent injury for runners 1:06:08 - Q&A: How to avoid overeating while trying to build muscle 1:08:15 - Q&A: Does a man who wants strength but not size need one gram of protein per pound? 1:10:44 - Q&A: Training around plantar fasciitis and a knee replacement — unilateral or full body?

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). Bret Contreras — the man who invented the barbell hip thrust — joins the guys to talk glute building, training longevity and why genetics matter more than most trainers will admit. They also get into his rotating periodization system, the new research on upper vs. lower glute targeting, and why hip thrust beats squats for most people. Plus Bret opens up about being single at 50 and what therapy taught him about relationships. SPONSORS Legion (supplements): https://buylegion.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP — new customers buy one get one 50% off, returning customers get 20% cash back. Third-party tested, clinical doses. GUEST LINKS Bret Contreras: https://www.instagram.com/bretcontreras1 Booty by Bret: https://www.instagram.com/bootybybretofficial LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:05 - Can anyone build a great butt? Bret explains why genetics determine 60% of the outcome 8:03 - Sacral slope, intramuscular fat, insertion points and fat distribution — the real variables 10:14 - Why quad dominant people cannot feel squats in their glutes — and the isometric fix 13:47 - New research: isometric training at stretch produces the same hypertrophy as leg extensions 21:57 - How Bret applies isometric work with clients and why eccentrics don't fatigue the same way 31:31 - How important is getting stronger? The research on strength and hypertrophy has finally caught up 34:11 - Why Bret's San Diego squad got more injured than his Fort Lauderdale squad — and the lesson 39:37 - Training around pain instead of through it — the real key to longevity in the gym 48:56 - Squats vs. hip thrust — why hip thrust wins on frequency, not on muscle activation 53:17 - Bret's rotating periodization system — switching the focus lift every four weeks 58:37 - New research: you can target upper vs. lower glute max through movement selection 1:01:00 - The permanent glute specialization template — 36 sets per week for glutes in 3 days 1:18:33 - Dating as a trainer surrounded by bikini models — Bret opens up about being single at 50 1:27:02 - Therapy, Gottman, Arthur Brooks and why Bret thinks purpose is the real secret to happiness

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down 5 lessons from bodybuilders that everyone should learn — mind muscle connection and why feeling the target muscle is a learnable skill that changes everything, the pump as a signal for hydration, recovery and muscle connection rather than just an ego boost, Lee Haney's principle of stimulate don't annihilate and why bodybuilders pioneered recovery science, why protein was ridiculed for decades before the rest of the world caught up, and why bodybuilders sleep more than almost any other athlete category and how it drove early recovery science. They also discuss Sal's coaching group chat on sleep and training decisions, why probiotics have moved into Sal's top tier supplements alongside creatine and multivitamins, how GLP-1 users are now spending four times more on fitness than non-users and why trainers should embrace this rather than fear it, the fascinating data on how long it takes to lose muscle and strength after stopping training . SPONSORS Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. Sal now considers probiotics a top-tier supplement alongside creatine and multivitamins — discussed at length on air. Zbiotics Pre-Alcohol: https://zbiotics.com/MINDPUMP26 Code: MINDPUMP26 for 15% off first purchase. World's first genetically engineered probiotic. Breaks down acetaldehyde in the gut. Sal does a deep dive on how acetaldehyde works in the body and why the liver alone can't handle it all. Kion (essential amino acids): https://getkion.com/mindpump 20% off automatically applied at checkout. 40% leucine-enriched formula for muscle protein synthesis. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 1:09 - 5 lessons from bodybuilders everyone should learn 5:38 - Lesson 1: Mind muscle connection — the skill that separates good training from great training 9:29 - Lesson 2: The pump — why it signals more than just a good workout 12:44 - Lesson 3: Stimulate don't annihilate — Lee Haney and why bodybuilders pioneered recovery science 16:14 - Lesson 4: Protein — bodybuilders were right decades before the rest of the world caught up 18:29 - Lesson 5: Sleep — why bodybuilders sleep more than almost any other athlete 19:21 - Sal's coaching group chat — why his friend is doing 36 sets and still leaving gains on the table 26:19 - Why probiotics have moved into Sal's top tier supplements alongside creatine 29:46 - GLP-1 users spend four times more on fitness — and why trainers should embrace this 35:37 - The future of gyms as social hubs and what that means for the fitness industry 40:53 - How long it actually takes to lose muscle and strength after you stop training 52:07 - In-N-Out removing artificial dyes and seed oils and why fitness people shouldn't scoff at incremental wins 1:01:31 - Caller: Patricia (Utah) — 23-year-old, 150 pounds, 15% body fat, competitive soccer background, wants to build a strong foundation, gets MAPS Powerlift 1:08:40 - Caller: Vanessa (Colorado) — 43-year-old, post-menopausal, built 8 pounds of muscle, reverse dieted from 1850 to 2400 calories, needs to keep going, gets coaching referral 1:18:10 - Caller: Caylee (Arizona) — going back to school, worried about losing muscle when training drops, gets MAPS 15 and learns she needs more calories not less 1:27:02 - Caller: Gabby (Australia) — 31-year-old former fashion model, 12 years of eating disorder history, now free, building muscle for the first time, gets MAPS Powerlift

mapsabsandbutt.com use code LAUNCH for 40% off BONUS: If you buy MAPS Abs & Butt - on the next page you get to pick Muscle Mommy 15 or Muscle Mommy for free. Your Choice. INCLUDED: The Butt Building Diet Guide & Women's Supplement Guide & At-Home Version (Dumbbells only) You want round, full glutes and a tight waist. So why is what you're currently doing making neither happen? In this episode of Mind Pump Show, Sal, Adam, and Justin tear apart the most common mistakes women make when trying to build their glutes, starting with the big one: eating 1,200 calories and calling it a fitness plan. Spoiler, your glutes cannot grow on blueprints alone. You need the actual building materials. 0:24 Episode overview: building round glutes 1:15 MAPS Abs and Butt launch offer 1:30 Mind Pump merch store plug 1:49 The core facts about glute growth 2:14 Common avatar: chronic undereating 4:47 Why excess cardio kills glute gains 7:59 Wrong exercises: kickbacks vs. compound lifts 9:22 How to strength train properly: sets and rest 10:39 Quad dominance and programming fixes 18:27 Optimal protein for muscle building 20:31 The build, feed, reveal framework and Q&A 23:56 Best carb and fat sources for building

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the low reps vs. high reps debate — covering why both build muscle equally when intensity is matched, why low reps build maximal strength better and high reps build strength endurance, why low reps are easier to recover from, and why doing both in phases produces the best long term results. They also get into Sal starting SS-31 peptide and why he is noticing similar energy and clarity benefits to MOTS-C, Adam microdosing GLP-1 for psoriasis and inflammation and the emerging studies on autoimmune and addiction applications, a new pill that reduces sleep apnea breathing events by 44% by targeting neuromuscular dysfunction, the history and bizarre fashion resurgence of the merkin, a study showing HEPA air filters improved executive function by 12% in 30 days, otter attacks being more serious than anyone expected, Adam's daughter calling her bikini top a boob mask, Manukora as part of the anti-viral immunity stack, a nationwide homeschool study showing 25-29 percentile point improvements across all subjects, and pickleball hitting 479% growth. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS Vita Bella / MP Hormones: https://mphormones.com Book a complimentary 10-minute consultation to find out if Vita Bella is right for you. SS-31 peptide and MOTS-C now available. BPC-157 back in stock. GLP-1 microdosing for inflammation and autoimmune conditions discussed on air. Or use code MINDPUMP365 to start your annual membership and receive a free blood panel and gift. Manukora Manuka Honey: https://manukora.com/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for up to 31% off plus $25 in free gifts with the Starter Kit. Discussed on air as part of the anti-viral immunity stack alongside NAD, glutathione, zinc, elderberry and thymus alpha. Hiya (kids' multivitamin): https://hiyahealth.com/MINDPUMP 50% off first order. Zero sugar, non-GMO, vegan, allergy-free. The only kids multivitamin the guys recommend. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia SPOTIFY TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro 2:29 - Low reps vs. high reps — why both build muscle and what makes them actually different 8:08 - Low reps build maximal strength and are easier to recover from — the mechanism explained 9:26 - High reps build strength endurance and are better for lagging body parts 10:42 - Why you should do both in phases rather than mixing them every workout 19:28 - SS-31 peptide — Sal starts it and compares it to MOTS-C for mitochondrial energy 22:01 - Adam's GLP-1 microdose experiment for psoriasis — inflammation down, no weight loss 28:52 - New pill reduces sleep apnea breathing events by 44% — neuromuscular dysfunction explained 31:22 - The merkin — its bizarre history and high fashion resurgence 34:46 - HEPA air filter study — 12% improvement in executive function in 30 days 38:12 - Otters are more dangerous than you think — the Lake Tahoe attack 40:00 - Adam's daughter calls her bikini top a boob mask 46:40 - Manukora as part of the anti-viral immunity stack 52:20 - Homeschool study — 25-29 percentile points higher across all subjects 1:01:38 - Caller: Mark (Wisconsin) — wants to compete in strongman, needs a new fitness goal 1:12:15 - Caller: Leah and Audrey (Wisconsin) — mother and daughter, wrestling athlete, off-season programming 1:31:54 - Caller: Liz (Utah) — aqua fitness instructor for seniors, also dealing with her own joint pain in perimenopause 1:48:29 - Caller: Justin (Florida) — Marine Corps vet, PTSD, bicep tendon rupture, gets 2 months free concierge coaching

MAPS Abs and Butt: ⁠ https://mapsabsandbutt.com⁠ Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the signs that your bulk or reverse diet is not working — losing weight on the scale, still feeling hungry, strength not going up, energy not improving, and sleep not getting better. They cover why strength is the single best metric to track during a bulk, why under eating during a supposed surplus leads to binge cycles on garbage food, and why women especially resist the scale going up even when building muscle is the goal. They also get into why old gym machines from the 90s with their heavier stacks were built for bodybuilders and how modern machines are designed for ease and safety, Paleo Valley bone broth protein in coffee that Sal's uncle has been doing for months without knowing it was a protein supplement, a new dating app exclusively for people who were never vaccinated for Covid, TBPN and how AI companies are buying podcasts to control public narrative — plus the William Hearst and cannabis prohibition parallel showing this is a 200-year-old game, pheromone maxing and the viral trend of guys skipping showers before dates, Arthur Brooks on the happiness data showing kids reduce daily enjoyment but dramatically increase meaning, and Vuori now making pickleball paddles as pickleball hit 479% growth and 24 million players in 5 years. Then they answer questions from Instagram. SPONSORS Paleo Valley (bone broth protein): ⁠ https://paleovalley.com/mindpump⁠ 15% off automatically applied at checkout. Vuori: ⁠ https://vuoriclothing.com/mindpump⁠ 20% off first order, no code needed. Dose for Your Liver: ⁠ https://dosedaily.co/MINDPUMP35⁠ Code: MINDPUMP35 for 35% off first month subscription. LINKS Mind Pump Store: ⁠ https://mindpumpstore.com⁠ Maps Fitness Products: ⁠ https://mapsfitnessproducts.com⁠ Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 1:13 - Signs your bulk is not working — and why most people are making the same mistakes 3:39 - Sign 1: You lost weight — if the scale goes down you are nowhere near eating enough 10:09 - Sign 2: You are hungry — on a proper bulk you should never feel hungry 13:00 - Sign 3: Strength has not gone up — the most objective metric during a bulk 15:12 - Sign 4: Energy is not better — proper surplus should have you moving more subconsciously 21:36 - Sign 5: Sleep is not better — and the libido clue nobody talks about 22:56 - Old gym machines had heavier stacks and were built for bodybuilders — a completely different design 25:00 - Paleo Valley bone broth protein in coffee — Sal's uncle has been doing it for months 26:40 - The new dating app exclusively for unvaccinated people — it is real 30:31 - TBPN sale and AI companies buying podcasts to control public narrative 38:02 - William Hearst, cannabis prohibition and 200 years of media narrative control 44:04 - Pheromone maxing — skipping showers before dates and the ovulation science behind it 47:24 - Arthur Brooks on happiness data — kids lower daily enjoyment but dramatically increase meaning 57:36 - Vuori now makes pickleball paddles — 479% growth and 24 million players in 5 years 1:06:21 - Q&A: Best way to build leg strength without a squat rack 1:08:43 - Q&A: Getting tighter after starting to lift — is this normal or a stretching problem? 1:12:08 - Q&A: Is winging it in the gym okay if you are consistent and progressing? 1:18:18 - Q&A: What would each of the guys be doing if Mind Pump never happened?

Maps Abs and Butt 40% off, a free Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15 program, a build your butt diet guide, and a supplement guide. Find everything at htpps://mapsabsandbutt.com with code Launch. You cannot shrink yourself into a better body. You have to build it first, then reveal it. That's the whole thesis of this Mind Pump Show episode, and the guys spend every minute proving it with real client stories, hard science, and the kind of blunt coaching most trainers are too scared to deliver. The Guys break down exactly why starting with a cut is the most common, most damaging mistake people make, whether they want a rounder butt, visible abs, or just a leaner physique overall. From the client who tried to bulk on 50 calories above maintenance, to the trainer competition where everyone cut so aggressively they lost muscle instead of fat, to the New England Journal of Medicine data showing a 10% bodyweight loss tanks your metabolism by hundreds of calories a day: the case for building first is airtight. Sponsors: Seed — seed.com/mindpump (code: 25MINDPUMP) 1:07 Opening thesis: build first, then reveal 2:19 Why bulking is so hard to sell, especially to women 2:46 Client story: the 50-calorie surplus that went nowhere 4:47 Personal bulk disasters: dirty bulking and zero muscle gained 8:13 The cut-too-hard trap: body fat percentage going UP 10:35 The real mechanism of muscle loss on aggressive cuts 11:32 Build before you cut: the correct order explained 13:30 Busting the bulky myth: what strength training actually does to a woman's body 24:29 The science case for building first: two key studies 28:00 Best exercises for glutes and abs: progressive overload over the burn 30:09 What the program structure actually looks like 35:59 MAPS Abs and Butt launch details and challenge

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the real dangers of artificial sweeteners — why they are unlikely to be physically dangerous despite all the scaremongering, why they simply do not work for weight loss in real life outside of controlled settings, how they change your perception of palatability so that water and whole foods start to taste bland, and why the novelty effect of pairing them with meals causes people to eat more overall. They also cover the LMNT pre-workout pump hack Sal has been using, making 1,000 pounds of tomatoes into Sunday sauce with the whole family, the GTA 6 trailer and the $1-2 billion production budget behind it, the serious and underreported sexual and psychological side effects of finasteride for hair loss, Ketone IQ stacked with morning caffeine as the guys' favorite energy combo before recording, the rock climbing store in Seoul South Korea you have to climb seven stories just to get inside, night club culture and what everyone is like after a few drinks, and Sal chipping a tooth and finding an emergency dentist on a Friday afternoon. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. SPONSORS LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. 1,000mg sodium per serving. Mix with your pre-workout for a dramatically better pump — Sal discusses the hack on air. Ketone IQ: https://ketone.com/MINDPUMP 30% off subscription orders plus a free gift with your second shipment. Take mid-day after your caffeine window for sustained mental sharpness. Joymode (sexual performance booster): https://tryjoymode.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off first order. Natural, science-backed formula — L-Citrulline, Arginine, Yohimbine and Vitamin C. Mix with water 45 minutes to 4 hours before. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:47 - The real dangers of artificial sweeteners — why they fail in real life 10:02 - How artificial sweeteners change your palatability and make whole foods taste bland 15:32 - Why the novelty effect makes you eat more when pairing them with meals 22:01 - The LMNT pre-workout pump hack — mixing electrolytes with your pre-workout 26:31 - Pickleball injury stories and the 47-year-old playing junior college football 29:34 - Making 1,000 pounds of tomatoes into Sunday sauce with the family 34:44 - GTA 6 trailer — $1-2 billion budget and why it looks like a movie 38:50 - Finasteride for hair loss — the serious sexual and psychological side effects nobody warns you about 47:01 - Ketone IQ stacked with morning caffeine — the guys' favorite recording day combo 47:58 - The rock climbing store in Seoul you have to climb seven stories just to enter 55:08 - Night club culture — what everyone is like after a few drinks 1:04:49 - Caller: Julie (Illinois) — osteopenia, vegan, reverse diet to 3,000 calories, plateau on Maps Esthetic, switching to Maps 15 1:30:36 - Caller: Dave (Georgia) — lost 100 pounds since 2019, wants to improve VO2 max and body composition 1:42:23 - Caller: Elissa (Michigan) — 90-day check-in, strength up across all three lifts including a month in Italy with no training 1:47:09 - Caller: Amber (Michigan) — cleaning business owner, beach volleyball 3-4 days a week, drastically overtraining, needs to cut volume way down

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version, and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the real reason most women never build the butt they want — and it has nothing to do with effort or genetics. They cover why you cannot shrink your way to a bigger butt, why high rep burn workouts and kickbacks produce almost no results, why the exercises that feel the best in your glutes are often the worst for building them, how much protein you actually need (and why it feels like force-feeding at first), why building muscle first makes getting lean dramatically easier, and why strength in the squat, hip thrust and deadlift is the only metric that actually tells you it's working. Sal shares the story of a client who went from 1900 to 2900 calories, built significant muscle, and then leaned out effortlessly without going nearly as low as before. MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Nine-week program focused on abs and glutes. Includes free second program (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15), Butt Building Diet Guide and Women's Supplement Guide. SPONSORS Super Patch: https://mindpump.superpatch.com No code needed, use URL for $30 off. Freedom (pain), Liberty (mobility), REM (sleep), Victory (athletic performance) and Focus (concentration) patches. Backed by over a dozen peer-reviewed studies. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:26 - The real reason your butt won't grow — and it has nothing to do with effort 4:27 - Why toning is not real and why you have to stop being afraid of building 7:35 - Why the exercises that feel the best in your glutes are often the worst for building them 10:00 - Five sets of heavy barbell squats beats 90 minutes of burn class — every time 11:14 - The diet truth: you cannot build a bigger butt while staying in a deficit 13:03 - How much protein you actually need — and why it feels like force feeding at first 17:36 - Why your body needs a reason to build muscle and what that reason has to be 20:45 - The best butt building exercises and why programming matters as much as the exercises 25:08 - Strength is the most important metric — if you are getting stronger your butt is growing 26:06 - Build first then reveal — why getting lean first is completely backwards 28:47 - Give yourself nine weeks minimum and what to expect in the mirror

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version, and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down why the cross-bench dumbbell pullover is one of the most forgotten and underrated exercises in the gym — covering how it trains a fundamental human movement pattern tied to throwing mechanics, why it fixes shoulder problems that nothing else touches, how it builds like a compound lift despite being an isolation movement, its unique benefits for thoracic mobility and rib expansion, and why it was a staple of old school bodybuilding for a reason. They also cover Adam's negotiating style and how radical honesty built Mind Pump's long term partnerships, a deep dive on Shilajit and the studies showing testosterone increases in healthy middle aged men, bone mineral density improvements in postmenopausal women and upregulation of extracellular matrix genes, the addiction economy Venn diagram showing 1 in 8 young men watch pornography, gamble and game every single day, the LifeLog and Facebook connection, gratitude practice and how Adam is using sauna time to rewire his relationship with wanting more, why electricians are now one of the most in-demand and highest-paid careers in the country, and Caldera Lab's new eye serum clinical study results. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS Organifi (Shilajit gummies): https://organifi.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% off. Caldera Lab (Eye Serum): https://calderalab.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP for 20% LMNT (electrolytes): https://drinklmnt.com/MindPump Free sample pack with any purchase, no code needed. 1,000mg sodium, no sugar. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:43 - The cross-bench dumbbell pullover — the best exercise most people have never done 6:52 - Why it trains a fundamental human movement pattern and fixes shoulder problems like nothing else 12:43 - Builds like a compound lift, improves thoracic mobility and strengthens the rib cage 20:39 - Adam's negotiating style — radical honesty and The Godfather lesson 29:42 - Shilajit studies — testosterone, bone density and gene expression 32:24 - The addiction economy — 1 in 8 young men watch porn, gamble and game daily 39:21 - LifeLog, Facebook and the same-day launch conspiracy 45:55 - Adam's sauna gratitude practice and rewiring the relationship with wanting more 54:19 - Electricians are now one of the highest paid and most in-demand careers in the country 1:11:02 - Caller: Jason (California) — firefighter paramedic, major car accident, 2 months out 1:25:25 - Caller: Shannon (Washington) — 62-year-old trainer, chronically lean, needs to eat more 1:48:33 - Caller: Jennifer (South Carolina) — lifelong endurance athlete, 135lb bench at 52, needs to reverse diet

MAPS Abs and Butt: https://mapsabsandbutt.com Code: LAUNCH for 40% off. Includes Butt Building Diet Guide, Women's Supplement Guide, at-home dumbbell version, and a free second program at checkout (Muscle Mommy or Muscle Mommy 15). In this episode the guys break down the right and wrong reasons to use fasting — not for body composition, not for anyone with a history of restricting, but specifically for spiritual purposes, breaking food attachment, gut health issues, autoimmune conditions like psoriasis and rheumatoid arthritis, and before or during chemotherapy. They also cover a detailed breakdown of grass-fed vs. grain-fed beef over one week and how the nutrient differences add up, Legion's pre-workout Pulse and the 350mg caffeine discussion, the happiness and money meta-study showing what the happiest high earners actually do with their money, Justin addressing the Arlo dog backlash from listeners and why the military dog trainer couldn't figure him out either, and how to separate cravings from real hunger. Then they answer questions from Instagram on whether pull-ups replace lat pulldowns, if you can take a break from high protein, healing injuries in a calorie deficit, and how to activate rear delts instead of traps. SPONSORS Legion (Pulse pre-workout): https://buylegion.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP — new customers buy one get one 50% off, returning customers get 20% cash back. 350mg caffeine, beta-alanine and more. Butcher Box: https://butcherbox.com/mindpump No code needed. Free ribeyes, NY strip steaks or filet mignons in every order for a year plus $20 off first box. Sal discusses the weekly grass-fed beef nutrient breakdown on air. Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:30 - How to use fasting for the right reasons — and who should never do it 4:51 - Reason 1: Spiritual purposes — the original and most powerful use of fasting 7:42 - Reason 2: Breaking food attachment — learning the difference between cravings and real hunger 10:54 - Reason 3: Gut health — why giving your digestive system a break has measurable effects 13:33 - Reason 4: Autoimmune conditions — psoriasis and rheumatoid arthritis have the most data 18:12 - Reason 5: Before and during chemotherapy — how fasting mimicking diet improves cancer cell response 24:14 - Grass-fed vs. grain-fed beef — the nutrient difference over one week adds up more than you think 29:00 - The guys compare their Butcher Box orders and why they all live off ground beef 34:41 - Legion Pulse pre-workout — 350mg caffeine, beta-alanine and the bathroom timing problem 41:35 - The happiness and money meta-study — what the happiest high earners do differently 52:53 - Justin addresses the Arlo dog listener backlash — the military dog trainer gave up 1:02:37 - Sal on fasting before podcasts for mental sharpness 1:08:49 - Q&A: If you only do pull-ups, are you missing anything by skipping lat pulldowns? 1:14:23 - Q&A: Can you take a break from 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight? 1:16:58 - Q&A: Can you rehab and heal from an injury in a calorie deficit? 1:18:31 - Q&A: How to activate rear delts instead of traps

MAPS Abs & Butt: ⁠https://mapsabsandbutt.com⁠ Abs and glutes. The two most requested body parts, the two most commonly undertrained. In this episode, Sal, Adam, and Justin break down the brand new MAPS Abs and Butt program and talk about WHY so many people fail to develop these areas, even when they're putting in the work. The answer isn't what most people think, and the guys are blunt about it. If you've been frustrated by a flat butt or abs that won't show no matter how hard you train, this is the episode that explains exactly why, and what to do about it. 00:00 Intro 00:22 MAPS Abs and Butt program intro and launch offer 01:17 Sponsor: Crisp Power 02:26 Why the hosts built this program 03:22 Evolutionary roots of abs and glute appeal 07:36 Why abs and glutes are so hard to develop 08:41 Full body programming with targeted volume emphasis 09:16 Cross-education science: why training the whole body helps target areas 14:16 Mind-muscle connection and why phases run inverse 15:51 Real example: ab exercises becoming hip flexor exercises 17:49 Program structure: phases, sets, reps, and intensity 19:57 Mistake 3: Not eating in a calorie surplus 21:56 Bonus guides, launch offer details, and free programs Sponsors: Crisp Power: ⁠https://crisppower.com/mindpump⁠ (code: mind pump) Mentioned: Brett Contreras - Described as one of the best in the business regarding workout programming, referenced during the discussion about total body volume limits.

MAPS BOGO: https://mapsbogo.com Buy one get one free — mix and match any of the top 10 most popular programs (Anabolic, Aesthetic, Performance, 15 Minutes, Anywhere, Symmetry, Starter, Muscle Mommy, Powerlift, 40+). In this episode the guys break down 5 signs that fitness fanatics specifically need to eat more and move less — feeling chronically worn out, sacrificing more important things for workouts and diet, staying super lean all the time with no flexibility, not improving any objective performance metric in a long time, and workouts no longer being joyful. They also get into Adam's new solo cooking ritual using Our Place pans and why it turned from a chore into something he looks forward to, Corinne's update as a top Mind Pump trainer who has finally committed to adding muscle after years of staying chronically lean, Justin's incredible weekend experience at a multi-day program, Adam getting back together with Katrina after a rough week of stress and house prep, Justin's son Everett watching the Odyssey movie and losing his mind over it, and Sal having another ghost experience at home. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. SPONSORS Our Place (cookware): https://fromourplace.com Code: MINDPUMP for 10% off sitewide. Forever chemical free, titanium nonstick, 100-day trial with free returns. Adam discusses using the Always Pan for his solo mushroom cooking sessions. Kion (essential amino acids): https://getkion.com/mindpump 20% off automatically applied at checkout. High leucine EAA formula — clinically shown to stimulate muscle protein synthesis between meals without extra calories or digestion load. Troscriptions: https://troscriptions.com/MINDPUMP Code: MINDPUMP for 10% off first order. Medical grade buccal supplements. LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia SPOTIFY TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro 2:10 - 5 signs fitness fanatics need to eat more and move less 3:51 - Sign 1: You are chronically worn out and never fully recovering 9:28 - Sign 2: You sacrifice more important things for workouts and diet 15:43 - Sign 3: You are super lean all the time with zero flexibility 19:02 - Sign 4: You have not improved objective performance in a long time 21:28 - Sign 5: Your workouts are no longer joyful — it is a grind 23:59 - Adam's solo cooking ritual with Our Place pans — how a chore became something he loves 28:29 - Corinne's update — top Mind Pump trainer finally committing to building muscle after years of staying too lean 33:53 - Justin's incredible multi-day weekend program experience and the inflammation difference it made 41:13 - Adam and Katrina's stressful week, house back on the market and getting back on the same page 45:14 - Justin's son Everett watches the Odyssey and loses his mind — the hidden gem movie debate 47:37 - Sal has another ghost experience at home 1:05:45 - Caller: Paul (Ontario) — fitness fanatic, overtrained, needs to dial back and trust the process 1:14:48 - Caller: Ryan (Ohio) — 36-year-old getting married in July, wants fat loss, needs a strength-first approach 1:37:35 - Caller: Melissa (Nebraska) — 43-year-old returning to fitness, metabolism needs rebuilding, gets reverse diet strategy 1:53:54 - Caller: Meredith (Texas) — long time listener, complex history, gets individualized programming advice

Jim Kwik's New Book: https://limitlessdaily.com Products: MAPS BOGO Sale — https://mapsbogo.com.com Sponsors: LMNT — https://drinklmnt.com/mindpump AI can synthesize, process, and generate faster than any human alive. But here's what it cannot do: think for YOU. Jim Kwik is back on Mind Pump, and he makes the case that your natural human intelligence is more valuable right now than it has ever been, precisely because most people are handing it over without a fight. Cognitive offloading, digital distraction, identity collapse as careers get automated, the risks are real and they are compounding fast. Jim breaks down the concept of cognitive reserve, the mental retirement account you build through new learning, physical activity, and social connection, and why someone like Sister Mary could have the brain plaques of advanced Alzheimer's and still ace her cognitive tests at 101. He lays out his BUILD framework for using AI as a creative partner rather than a crutch, and explains why the quality of your prompts is a direct reflection of your own human intelligence. Chapters: 0:19 Introducing Jim Kwik and the episode hook 2:29 Is AI making us dumb? 4:17 The four horsemen of digital cognitive decline 5:52 Outsourcing activity vs. outsourcing thinking 6:48 How technology has always changed the brain 13:21 Cognitive reserve, the nun study, and Sister Mary 15:43 Cognitive flexibility vs. cognitive rigidity 18:51 Jim's BUILD framework for using AI without losing your mind 30:36 The HUMAN acronym: what AI cannot replace 58:50 Sleep inertia and attentional priming 1:01:26 Limitless Daily: the five-minute morning mind practice 1:05:11 Jim's daily structure: Create, Consume, Clear

MAPS BOGO: https://mapsbogo.com Buy one get one free — mix and match any of the top 10 most popular programs (Anabolic, Aesthetic, Performance, 15 Minutes, Anywhere, Symmetry, Starter, Muscle Mommy, Powerlift, 40+) for $157. In this episode the guys break down the dangers of GLP-1 drugs — covering who they are actually for, who they are not for, the real risks including muscle loss, bone density decline and gastroparesis, and the only right way to use them with resistance training and behavioral change. They also get into Sal's Collective shoes situation that led into an unexpected swinger conversation, the new federal income brackets and what it says about inflation, why owning a home is quietly becoming a luxury not a right, a massive 236-country demographic study showing global fertility has fallen below replacement rate for the first time in 60,000 years, why going to church is the biggest predictor of economic upward mobility, and the guys sharing their personal Caldera Lab favorites. Then they coach live callers submitted through mplivecaller.com. Mind Pump Fitness Coaching: https://mindpumpfitnesscoaching.com 1.9 NASM CEUs SPONSORS Caldera Lab (skincare): https://calderalab.com/mindpump Code: MINDPUMP20 for 20% off. Over 90% of trial participants reported reduced fine lines, wrinkles and healthier skin. All natural, works with your skin's microbiome. Zbiotics Pre-Alcohol: https://zbiotics.com/MINDPUMP26 Code: MINDPUMP26 for 15% off first purchase (one-time or subscription). World's first genetically engineered probiotic that breaks down acetaldehyde in the gut before it causes next-day issues. Super Patch: https://mindpump.superpatch.com No code needed, use URL for $30 off. Patches for pain (Freedom), mobility (Liberty), sleep (REM), focus (Focus) and mood (Joy). LINKS Submit a live caller question: https://mplivecaller.com Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 2:09 - GLP-1 drugs are killing people — and they're not the panacea everyone thinks 5:17 - Who GLP-1 is actually for and who is using it wrong 11:44 - The risks: muscle loss, bone density, gastroparesis and behavioral dependency 16:14 - The only right way to use GLP-1 — resistance training, protein and behavior change 27:58 - Sal's Collective shoes situation — and the unexpected swinger conversation 37:24 - New federal income brackets and what they reveal about real inflation 41:00 - Why owning a home is quietly becoming a luxury rather than a right 48:10 - 236-country study: global fertility below replacement rate for the first time in 60,000 years 51:18 - Church attendance as the single biggest predictor of economic upward mobility 54:30 - The guys share their personal Caldera Lab favorites 1:11:40 - Caller: Kennedy (Missouri) — returning caller, up from 1,600 to 2,800 calories, strength gains 1:21:24 - Caller: RSI (Colorado) — 6-7 years lifting, approaching intermediate plateau, needs a program change 1:29:48 - Caller: Autumn (Ohio) — no lower body strength progress in 2 years after a lean phase 1:37:10 - Caller: Hunter (Utah) — training around a recurring injury, wants to stay consistent

MAPS BOGO: https://mapsbogo.com Buy one get one free — mix and match any of the top 10 most popular programs (Anabolic, Aesthetic, Performance, 15 Minutes, Anywhere, Symmetry, Starter, Muscle Mommy, Powerlift, 40+) for $157. In this episode the guys break down whether a good gym actually makes a difference — covering convenience, cleanliness, and culture as the three things the gym industry has identified as the real drivers of consistency. They cover why 24 Hour Fitness put gyms within ten miles of each other on purpose, why culture matters more than equipment, why CrossFit proved that a grimy box with no air conditioning can beat a fully equipped luxury gym, and why the right culture depends entirely on where you are in your fitness journey. They also get into new probiotic research showing measurable effects on strength, endurance and fat loss through improved amino acid availability, gut wall permeability in athletes, and CNS firing efficiency, why gluten sensitivity is more common than people realize and how to know if it's affecting your results, the famous Nun Study from the 1980s showing nuns with full Alzheimer's pathology who still scored perfectly on cognitive tests, why their voices have all gotten lower over ten years of podcasting, and the new Mind Pump Hormones community on Skool replacing their Facebook forum. Then they answer questions from Instagram. MP Hormones Skool Community (free): https://skool.com/mindpumphormones Moderated peptide and hormone therapy discussion with medical professionals. SPONSORS Seed Daily Synbiotic: https://seed.com/mindpump Code: 25MINDPUMP for 25% off your first month. Probiotics discussed on air — emerging data on strength gains, endurance and fat loss through gut health optimization. Hiya (kids' multivitamin): https://hiyahealth.com/MINDPUMP 50% off first order. Zero sugar, non-GMO, vegan, allergy-free. The only kids multivitamin the guys recommend. LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 1:46 - Does a good gym actually make a difference? 8:48 - The three things that predict gym consistency: convenience, cleanliness and culture 11:06 - Why CrossFit proved culture beats equipment every time 17:43 - Why the right culture depends on where you are in your journey 23:12 - Why Orange Theory consistency is worth celebrating before evolving 27:27 - New probiotic research showing measurable effects on strength, endurance and fat loss 31:05 - Leaky gut is more common in athletes than the general public — why 34:10 - How gluten sensitivity shows up as low-level systemic inflammation without you realizing it 45:32 - The famous Nun Study — brains full of Alzheimer's pathology, perfect cognitive scores 59:34 - Mind Pump Hormones community is moving from Facebook to Skool 1:02:20 - Q&A: How to progress in a squat when you're already strong and in a deficit 1:05:04 - Q&A: Traditional sauna vs. infrared — which one has the science behind it? 1:08:13 - Q&A: If muscles grow through rest, how do bodybuilders train 6-7 times a week? 1:12:55 - Q&A: How long should you give a calorie deficit before expecting to see results?

MAPS BOGO: https://mapsbogo.com Buy one get one free — mix and match any of the top 10 most popular programs (Anabolic, Aesthetic, Performance, 15 Minutes, Anywhere, Symmetry, Starter, Muscle Mommy, Powerlift, 40+) for $157. In this episode the guys sit down with seven-time Mr. Olympia Phil Heath for a wide-ranging conversation covering the military, faith, bodybuilding and business. Phil shares stories from years of USO tours — including a trip to Guantanamo Bay with the Most Interesting Man in the World, drinking the ceremonial grog three times at a Medal of Honor ceremony, and training with Marines on base. He breaks down how being a hyper responder shaped his approach to PEDs (less is more), the problem with influencers recommending a gram of testosterone or 400-500mg of Trenbolone to beginners, why he believes GLP-1s are essentially cheating in competition prep, why he thinks no one in the open division is bringing diet face anymore, how barbell rows and training back twice a week transformed his physique, the mental shift from training angry to training joyful after his faith walk, his four and a half years of depression post-retirement, how he turned down Hollywood roles he felt were degrading, and his anticipation of becoming a father for the first time at 46. The guys also get into bodybuilding prize money history — from $100K and a Hummer in the early Arnold years to Arnold and the Olympia now bidding against each other toward $750K and beyond. Vita Bella / MP Hormones: https://mphormones.com Book a complimentary 10-minute consultation to find out if Vita Bella is right for you. Consultation: https://meetings-na2.hubspot.com/alever/marketing-membership-consultation Or use code MINDPUMP365 to start your annual membership and receive a free blood panel and gift. GUEST LINKS Phil Heath: https://www.instagram.com/philheath Phil's app and coaching: launching soon — follow @philheath for updates LINKS Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Intro 1:59 - Phil's USO tours — Guantanamo Bay, Medal of Honor ceremonies and training with Marines 9:32 - How Phil is training now — 3-4 days a week, eating twice a day and prepping to have a kid 17:23 - Being a hyper responder — why Phil used less than most people think 23:05 - PED influencers recommending crazy doses to beginners — why Phil is frustrated 29:54 - The biggest training mistakes Phil sees today — speed, ego and no mind-muscle connection 40:27 - How barbell rows and training back twice a week transformed Phil's physique 42:34 - Why Phil cut arm training to every other week — and why it worked 51:44 - GLP-1s in professional bodybuilding — why Phil thinks over 90% are using them and why it's a problem 55:25 - Why no one has diet face anymore — inflammation, compounds and shortcuts showing up on stage 1:02:46 - Food poisoning at the 2009 Olympia — EMTs in his room until 6am the night before the show 1:13:02 - Phil's four and a half years of depression after retiring from bodybuilding 1:20:48 - Hollywood offers, "bucks breaking" and why Phil turned them down 1:24:26 - Transition from training angry to training joyful — the faith shift that changed everything 1:30:40 - Phil's path to fatherhood at 46 — what he's thinking and what he wants for his kid 1:47:22 - Bodybuilding prize money history — from $100K and a Hummer to Arnold vs. Olympia at $750K